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    Tune in to SHR (2/7/12) for AndroBulk & AndroMass discussion


    Hey guys,

    Eric will be discussing The new AndroSeries v3 AndroBulk and AndroMass products in full detail.

    This should be very insightful to those whom have lots of questions regarding the new product line.

    2-7-12 9am PST

    -Matt

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    Wow. Will be listening for sure.
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    Anyone catch the show?

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    I didn't catch the show but I changed my mind from an AMv3 cycle to an ABv3 cycle.....was not aware it was a 3:1 ratio in favor of the 4DHEA over the nor. I can handle that, and it should be much more effective than a 50/50 (or actually more like 60/40) ratio of DHT to 4DHEA in the AMv3. JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    Anyone catch the show?
    I listened. Great info there. It's up for dl if anyone wants to grab it off the shr site.
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    We have come to the conclusion that 8 weeks is ideal and anything shorter is a disservice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
    We have come to the conclusion that 8 weeks is ideal and anything shorter is a disservice.

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    is this true for any of the andro series ? drive lean and hard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17

    is this true for any of the andro series ? drive lean and hard?
    Looking for some information from PP so I can know if I need to get enough for 8 weeks of each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    Looking for some information from PP so I can know if I need to get enough for 8 weeks of each.
    With Drive ppl are noticing it within the first week, however, for the BEST benefits all of them should be ran for at least 6-8 weeks imo. Shoot me a PM and I'll give you a discount bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    With Drive ppl are noticing it within the first week, however, for the BEST benefits all of them should be ran for at least 6-8 weeks imo. Shoot me a PM and I'll give you a discount bud.
    hey man looking forward to getting an extra bottle of all three actually. although transaderm is the same hormones as AD. I assume they have the same benefits. I have ran one bottle of drive already and noticed its benefits in a 4 week run for sure, I really enjoyed the energy it gave me
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    8 weeks guys on ALL androseries --- these are slower acting steroids that have a build up effect. Yes you get active hormones into your blood on day 1, but you need some time for consistent build up.

    8 weeks is key --->beyond that could be great too, but I would run these steroids like AAS. Switch compounds every 6 weeks (rotating hormones).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
    8 weeks guys on ALL androseries --- these are slower acting steroids that have a build up effect. Yes you get active hormones into your blood on day 1, but you need some time for consistent build up.

    8 weeks is key --->beyond that could be great too, but I would run these steroids like AAS. Switch compounds every 6 weeks (rotating hormones).

    -Matt
    Wish I would of known this when I first ordered. also what do you mean by switching compounds? for example run Ah for 6 then Al for 6 would be more beneficial than stacking both for 8?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    Wish I would of known this when I first ordered. also what do you mean by switching compounds? for example run Ah for 6 then Al for 6 would be more beneficial than stacking both for 8?
    How many days of the cycle do you have left? Let me know I might be able to help you out.

    I mean for example --

    weeks 1-6 AndroBulk + AndorHard

    weeks 6-12 AndroHard + AndroLean

    Rotating different hormones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    I listened. Great info there. It's up for dl if anyone wants to grab it off the shr site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    How many days of the cycle do you have left? Let me know I might be able to help you out.

    I mean for example --

    weeks 1-6 AndroBulk + AndorHard

    weeks 6-12 AndroHard + AndroLean

    Rotating different hormones.

    -Matt
    I haven't started this cycle it's a future cycle. I have ah/al/ad one bottle of each and plan to get more. I also would like to know how I could run epi with these products, a short run just to cap off the cycle of possibly in the start; I want the recovery to be easy even though I have a very extensive cycle/pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by apoxtle View Post
    what 3 was the episode? i'd like to dload
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
    Hey guys,

    Eric will be discussing The new AndroSeries v3 AndroBulk and AndroMass products in full detail.

    This should be very insightful to those whom have lots of questions regarding the new product line.

    2-7-12 9am PST

    -Matt
    Hey Matt how should I cycle the hormones if I have two bottles of hard 1 drive and 2 lean? I also might get a bottle of transaderm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    Hey Matt how should I cycle the hormones if I have two bottles of hard 1 drive and 2 lean? I also might get a bottle of transaderm
    Run the Hard and Lean at max dose for 8 weeks.

    Dose the Drive at 3 softgels a day for 8 weeks.

    I doubt transaderm is necessary due to AndroDrive being cycled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    Run the Hard and Lean at max dose for 8 weeks.

    Dose the Drive at 3 softgels a day for 8 weeks.

    I doubt transaderm is necessary due to AndroDrive being cycled.

    -Matt
    thanks a lot man I cant wait to run these. would epi be stackable for 4 weeks? in the beginning to kick start it? or will shutdown happen immediately after I finish the epi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    thanks a lot man I cant wait to run these. would epi be stackable for 4 weeks? in the beginning to kick start it? or will shutdown happen immediately after I finish the epi
    I have 3/4 a bottle of AHv3 leftover and I'll have 1 1/2 bottles of IBE epi also leftover in about a month or so....I figure to stack them at 3 each per day (3 epi 30mg and 3 AHv3) for 6 weeks. Its kind of due to what I have leftover, but it made sense to me since I did well on 4 a day of AHv3 so stacked with a lower-mid dose of epi should be good to go.
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    sounds good but I'm also gonna be taking al and ad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    thanks a lot man I cant wait to run these. would epi be stackable for 4 weeks? in the beginning to kick start it? or will shutdown happen immediately after I finish the epi
    Now shutdown is more of an issue. Either be prepared for some shut down and accept it, or keep the methyls out of the equation. If you run a super solid pCT -- TRS2 + exemestane you will most likely be just fine.

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    So will you guys be changing your product size to supply a full six weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    hey man looking forward to getting an extra bottle of all three actually. although transaderm is the same hormones as AD. I assume they have the same benefits. I have ran one bottle of drive already and noticed its benefits in a 4 week run for sure, I really enjoyed the energy it gave me
    I haven't ran Transaderm but I did use Dermacrine often and I have to say AndroDrive is a completely different beast. It is much stronger imo and quite frankly guys I recommend it on any cycle, the motivation/drive/energy/mental cognition and on is amazing and truly makes getting stuff done and staying disciplined an afterthought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaadGoat View Post
    So will you guys be changing your product size to supply a full six weeks?
    Not sure on this, but I do have a discount for AS products.

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    I'm interested, I hesitate to go with Bulk or Mass just yet as even with a restrictive diet and tons of cardio, I am pretty lean except around my chest and lower abs. Arms and legs are cut already. I'm thinking AL/AD, but I haven't settled on exactly what yet. I just got bloodwork back and all numbers are within range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    Now shutdown is more of an issue. Either be prepared for some shut down and accept it, or keep the methyls out of the equation. If you run a super solid pCT -- TRS2 + exemestane you will most likely be just fine.

    -Matt
    I'm prepared I have a really solid pct, just want to know if when to stack epi in my upcoming cycle, the end or beginning?

    8weeks Ah/al/ad

    ah 6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6
    al 6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6
    ad 3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    I'm prepared I have a really solid pct, just want to know if when to stack epi in my upcoming cycle, the end or beginning?

    8weeks Ah/al/ad

    ah 6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6
    al 6/6/6/6/6/6/6/6
    ad 3/3/3/3/3/3/3/3
    I would do it in the beginning, or run a low dose the whole time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    I would do it in the beginning, or run a low dose the whole time.

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    sweet thanks man, once I stop epi will i go through suppression instantly and experience sides or will the other compounds keep my test running strong with no sides. gonna run low dose 6 weeks instead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    sweet thanks man, once I stop epi will i go through suppression instantly and experience sides or will the other compounds keep my test running strong with no sides. gonna run low dose 6 weeks instead
    The Epi will in fact suppress you, to what extent? hard to say.

    I will say just have all of your PCT products bought AHEAD of time and ready to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter

    The Epi will in fact suppress you, to what extent? hard to say.

    I will say just have all of your PCT products bought AHEAD of time and ready to go.

    -Matt
    I understand that it will suppress me and have an extensive pct already stocked and ready. what I was asking is why run epi in the beginning of the cycle? wouldn't you wanna start pct after epi has cleared the body? so run it in the latter part of the cycle instead? or the beginning? also should I dose it once a day or spread out bc either way suppression is going to happen.

    pct is:
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    cabergolean
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    will most likely get clomid and run it low dose next to this.
    what else do you think would be necessary to get the most out of this cycle?

    would a nutrient partitioner be better on cycle or pct?
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    I would run the nutrient partitioner in PCT as you will lose the extra hormones that would increase anabolism and thus make more need for proper use of energy
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag
    I would run the nutrient partitioner in PCT as you will lose the extra hormones that would increase anabolism and thus make more need for proper use of energy
    thanks a lot! should I keep a low carb diet for cycle ? or just go ham on all types of good food lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    thanks a lot! should I keep a low carb diet for cycle ? or just go ham on all types of good food lol
    completely depends on goals and the power of the PH you are on. I would think if you wanted to bulk on androbulk/andromass you would just have to eat as much good food as possible. If you wanted to lean out whilst taking on some mass I would do something like 1g carb per lb of Body weight on training days Before/Post workout, and only veggies on non workout days. Or perhaps 50g of starches for breakfast. Up to you, and how well you handle carbs though. I dont do well on a lot of carbs even on Mdrol... so yea. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    completely depends on goals and the power of the PH you are on. I would think if you wanted to bulk on androbulk/andromass you would just have to eat as much good food as possible. If you wanted to lean out whilst taking on some mass I would do something like 1g carb per lb of Body weight on training days Before/Post workout, and only veggies on non workout days. Or perhaps 50g of starches for breakfast. Up to you, and how well you handle carbs though. I dont do well on a lot of carbs even on Mdrol... so yea. lol.
    Goals are to gain just 6-10lbs of muscle and be 180 with the same body fat if not less. I'm guessing I'm at 9% now that I changed my diet to low carb. I used to be 11%. current weight is 170. I'm carb sensitive meaning if I eat a good deal ( >1 per lb body weight ) I get bloated really easily and don't look as lean. with epi/ah/al I think the fat should just come off and muscle just pile on hopefully! I currently do about 100-150 workout days and non workout days just fruits and veggies. workouts I do are p90x lol

    epi is extremely anabolic
    al is said to be a medium (lack of another term)anabolic
    and ah is highly androgenic/ slightly anabolic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17

    Goals are to gain just 6-10lbs of muscle and be 180 with the same body fat if not less. I'm guessing I'm at 9% now that I changed my diet to low carb. I used to be 11%. current weight is 170. I'm carb sensitive meaning if I eat a good deal ( >1 per lb body weight ) I get bloated really easily and don't look as lean. with epi/ah/al I think the fat should just come off and muscle just pile on hopefully! I currently do about 100-150 workout days and non workout days just fruits and veggies. workouts I do are p90x lol

    epi is extremely anabolic
    al is said to be a medium (lack of another term)anabolic
    and ah is highly androgenic/ slightly anabolic.
    Ah. With that I would stick to a low carb high protein diet. Take in around 1.5-2g per pound in body weight, then have your carbs at around half of that at most and fats at least .5g per lb of body weight in healthy fats. I differ in what I consider healthy though. Lol. Good luck.
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    Mattrag do you rep for PP? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
    Mattrag do you rep for PP? Lol
    Is that where this thread is? Lol.
    I donno just giving out advice cause I'm bored at work on my phone.

    Advice, Take it or leave it bro. Hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    Is that where this thread is? Lol.
    I donno just giving out advice cause I'm bored at work on my phone.

    Advice, Take it or leave it bro. Hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austinmck17 View Post
    I understand that it will suppress me and have an extensive pct already stocked and ready. what I was asking is why run epi in the beginning of the cycle? wouldn't you wanna start pct after epi has cleared the body? so run it in the latter part of the cycle instead? or the beginning? also should I dose it once a day or spread out bc either way suppression is going to happen.

    pct is:
    nolvadex
    2 erase pro
    daa bulk
    vidatest
    division 1
    cabergolean
    2 anabeta
    lean xtreme

    will most likely get clomid and run it low dose next to this.
    what else do you think would be necessary to get the most out of this cycle?

    would a nutrient partitioner be better on cycle or pct?
    You could run it the entire time with proper liver care being taken into consideration.

    You are correct in that you will be suppressed regardless, but if you did choose to jump start the cycle w/ EPI, I would continue the remainder of the cycle with a single dose of AH + AL just in the morning & perhaps dose DAA at night before bed to get a "head start" on turning back on some HPTA function even while on cycle.

    -Matt
  

  
 

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