PH's That Do Not Cause Hair Loss

  1. PH's That Do Not Cause Hair Loss


    My hairline is receding a tiny bit. Almost unnoticeable. But don't want to push my luck. Was considering Epi this Spring to prepare for Summer, but not sure which gear carries the hairloss side effect. If anyone has a suggestion they think might be better, please share. By Spring I'm expecting to be 165 at 6'0", a flabby, deflated, skinny-fat man after losing 110-115 pounds. I'll have little muscle (lost a lot, bad dieting) and a little chub left. So I'm thinking a "recomping" PH, a GDA, and maybe a non-stim fat burner... Epi fit the bill?


  2. if it binds to the androgen receptor, hair loss can happen.

    if it doesn't bind to the a.r. no worries, no gains, no sides.
    OLYMPUS UK REP
    30% OFF OLYMPUS UK USING JBUK30 GET SWOLE!

  3. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    if it binds to the androgen receptor, hair loss can happen.

    if it doesn't bind to the a.r. no worries, no gains, no sides.
    True that. All in all, any AAS will exacerbate hair loss to some extent. There is some evidence to indicate that hair loss is DHT mediated (hence the use of finasteride), so certainly avoid the DHT like compounds or those that are highly androgenic. Anyway, someone created a highly informative sticky about hair loss prevention. Start there.
    •   
       


  4. Hahaha no gains? Wait, so, if I don't risk hair loss, it's pointless? Or do you mean "no gains" as in, it'll dry you out, lean you out, harden you up, but no gains?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Jonny784 View Post
    True that. All in all, any AAS will exacerbate hair loss to some extent. There is some evidence to indicate that hair loss is DHT mediated (hence the use of finasteride), so certainly avoid the DHT like compounds or those that are highly androgenic. Anyway, someone created a highly informative sticky about hair loss prevention. Start there.
    A'thank you.

  6. No gains means that if you aren't risking hair loss it won't be a PH/AAS.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Domenic View Post
    Hahaha no gains? Wait, so, if I don't risk hair loss, it's pointless? Or do you mean "no gains" as in, it'll dry you out, lean you out, harden you up, but no gains?
    he means any ph can cause hairloss. the same thing that causes good sides, also causes bad sides.
    For me, the action IS the juice.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    No gains means that if you aren't risking hair loss it won't be a PH/AAS.

    ManBeast
    Quote Originally Posted by soontobbeast View Post
    he means any ph can cause hairloss. the same thing that causes good sides, also causes bad sides.
    yup. if you dont want the potential risk of all possible androgenic side effects, dont use androgens (pro hormones, steroids, sarms, etc)
    OLYMPUS UK REP
    30% OFF OLYMPUS UK USING JBUK30 GET SWOLE!

  9. Okey dokey... so for the recomp I described up there, what do you guys think? AnaBeta and a non-stim? Natadrol and an anti-cortisol?

  10. or you could just shave you head like i do and not care about hair loss

  11. Quote Originally Posted by apoxtle View Post
    or you could just shave you head like i do and not care about hair loss
    But I like the way it looks with a #2 all over. :-/

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Jonny784 View Post
    True that. All in all, any AAS will exacerbate hair loss to some extent. There is some evidence to indicate that hair loss is DHT mediated (hence the use of finasteride), so certainly avoid the DHT like compounds or those that are highly androgenic. Anyway, someone created a highly informative sticky about hair loss prevention. Start there.
    This is true, but I want to clarify that just because a aas is a dht derivative doesn't mean that it's androgenic or hard on the hairline. For example anavar is a dht derivative and it's one of the least androgenic aas there is and isn't known to be hard on the hairline. That said, I agree that any androgen has the potential to aggravate hair loss if you're highly susceptible to mpb.

  13. the potential is always there

    proviron was the only one that f*cked me... had to stop it from the shedding but hair came back nice and full after discontinuing it

  14. Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    the potential is always there

    proviron was the only one that f*cked me... had to stop it from the shedding but hair came back nice and full after discontinuing it
    so you're hair came back just as full?

    i think i got some thinning from 11oxo and stanodrol.......or I'm just thinning at 25 and the stano had nothing to do with it, which would bum me out big time.
    For me, the action IS the juice.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by soontobbeast View Post
    so you're hair came back just as full?

    i think i got some thinning from 11oxo and stanodrol.......or I'm just thinning at 25 and the stano had nothing to do with it, which would bum me out big time.
    yea, shedding stopped and hair came back to normal

    when i was researching it up i kept getting it was a "shock" type of thing. probably broscience

    have you tried anything for it?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    yea, shedding stopped and hair came back to normal

    when i was researching it up i kept getting it was a "shock" type of thing. probably broscience

    have you tried anything for it?
    ive been using regenepure shampoo every other day for the past couple months. supposedly regenepure has ketoconozole and some other stuff in it to help regrowth of hair.

    i used it during the time i used 11oxo and stano. weird thing is, the thinning appeared after the 11oxo, but before the stano. its on the right side of my forehead - not towards the crown as a receding hairline.

    what would you suggest? i have been taking the 11oxo in low doses for the past couple months on and off for cortisol, but ive been competely off it for a couple weeks or so. still using the shampoo. typically i know its a bad idea to be on any type of androgen/ph or whatnot for any extended period, but i didn't think in my wildest dreams 11oxo would be this androgenic for me.
    For me, the action IS the juice.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by soontobbeast View Post
    ive been using regenepure shampoo every other day for the past couple months. supposedly regenepure has ketoconozole and some other stuff in it to help regrowth of hair.

    i used it during the time i used 11oxo and stano. weird thing is, the thinning appeared after the 11oxo, but before the stano. its on the right side of my forehead - not towards the crown as a receding hairline.

    what would you suggest? i have been taking the 11oxo in low doses for the past couple months on and off for cortisol, but ive been competely off it for a couple weeks or so. still using the shampoo. typically i know its a bad idea to be on any type of androgen/ph or whatnot for any extended period, but i didn't think in my wildest dreams 11oxo would be this androgenic for me.
    i would definitely replace the 11oxo for erase by PES... might not be as anabolic, but you'll get cortisol control and lower e2, but the way you're using the 11oxo i doubt you would get any anabolic effect from it anyways.

    as far as the hair, i'm stooped. generic things come to mind like rogain, propecia, nizoral shampoo, ketoconozole, n2 shampoo etc and comb your hair multiple times everyday to stimulate that scalp... sounds weird but i was told this by my doctor and have been doing it regularly for a long time now.

  18. I would suggest running N2Shmapoo with your cycle. I use it everyday(esp when on cycle) and I haven't had a problem yet.
    It's got ingredients that are proven to block DHT in the scalp and stimulate regrowth. And it smells so good you'll wanna eat it
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Ten Causes of Hair Loss
    By jannkahon in forum Nutrition / Health
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-25-2011, 06:30 PM
  2. Hair Loss
    By ButtaButtaJam in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-23-2007, 08:24 PM
  3. hair loss from 4AD
    By jediclampet in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 02-14-2005, 03:23 PM
  4. PH's and Hair loss
    By Bryan in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 12-22-2003, 01:03 PM
  5. Hair loss help!
    By da95es in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 07-07-2003, 05:51 PM
Log in
Log in