P-Stanz vs Winny

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  1. P-Stanz vs Winny


    For those that have used both .....

    Comparable?
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  2. Forgive my ignoramce but isnt stanz and winny the same thing? I dont know what p stanz is.
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  3. If I'm not mistaken; one is the PH to the other? P- stanz, the PH to stanozolol, has always produced reliable lean gains. While it seems that Furuza is always hit and miss.

    My two cents,......

  4. It's not a PH to stanozolol. P-stanz is a PH to unmethylated stanozolol. Without the 17a-methyl it's a different compound.

  5. You both are wrong, google, then try again
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  6. Sooooooo anyone? Lol

    I am one of the rare birds that did not like Epi and I have run Furaz many times.

    Looking to try something new

    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    For those that have used both .....

    Comparable?
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  7. Fura is stronger then pstanz on a mg for mg basis.

    Same for furazabol and winstrol

  8. Thanks

    Given that, any differences in results/effects?
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  9. it'll be dose dependant. probably about 400mg of pstanz may be equal to about 50mg of winstrol. this is just a guestimate though. some people respond better than others.

    if you have access to winstrol,i would recomend using that instead.

  10. Thanks JB

    I'm really trying the avoid methyls these days

    Although me thinks 400 mg of Pstanz might be just as side effect prone as 50 mg of Winny ya know?
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Thanks JB

    I'm really trying the avoid methyls these days

    Although me thinks 400 mg of Pstanz might be just as side effect pronse as 50 mg of Winny ya know?
    I'm thinking no, winny can kill lipids badly, not so sure any non methyl can do that even at high doses

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Thanks JB

    I'm really trying the avoid methyls these days

    Although me thinks 400 mg of Pstanz might be just as side effect pronse as 50 mg of Winny ya know?
    Hey my man, speaking from experience .... from other people of course i can say that pstanz should not be run any less then 300mg a day taken in three different doses , 100mgs in morning, afternoon and evening. This dosage will yield the most results with the lowest sides for that amount and of course every person is diffrent so i would recommend starting with 100mg for a day or two then everyday there after increase your dose by 50 to 100 mgs. when introducing a compound into your system esp designer drugs we always want to se how it reacts with ones body...at least I would ....if not seeing any negative sides ....then to see max results keep that 300mgs in your system everyday for at least 4-6 weeks and have even heard of guys holding that dosage for 8-12 weeks with no sides but again all up to the user..

    as for the winny, would you be referring to oral or injectable, each one will have to taken in different manner of course in addition to diiffrent mg dosage.
    of course its pretty much a given that one will yield more results from the actual steriod rather then the alternative such as pstanz..

    50mgs of either oral or injectable winny a day will yeild excellent results with out many sides at all..... they affect each peron differently

    but in my experience one did not receive any diffrent sides with 300mg of pstanz then with 50mgs of oral or injectable winstrol
    ( now i would be referring to visual or noticable sides that you can see or feel this is not taking into account whats going inside the body with liver kidney so on)

    honestly and if given the choice i would always spend the money on the real deal as opposed to the other
    hope this helps and if you need anything else please dont hesitate to ask
    good luck be safe
    " If you always do what you have already done, you always get what you have already got"

  13. PS listen to JB, he knows his stuff!!!!!
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    see look at this guy he took on cycle of pstanz at 300mgs for just 6 weeks and went from 155 pound to this ...... crazy right ? lmoa
    goodluck bro
    " If you always do what you have already done, you always get what you have already got"

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    For those that have used both .....

    Comparable?
    Don't like posting up about my anabolic use in case a police department(employer) sees it, so please delete after u read, thanks:

    I've used all 3- pstanz, oral winny, inject winny.

    All had pros n cons, If I had to run one again it would be oral winny-
    Main reasons- least sides, most effective

    Pstanz gave me the most aggression, but it was out of control rage n anger :/ also upset my stomach. N effects seemed to wear off the final 2 weeks. Pct was tough, lots of shut down. 400mg daily for 6 weeks

    Inject winny is one of the most painful n frequent to do, every other day! I could barely walk for my entire cycle legit.. I worked as a waiter n called out several times bc I couldn't stat on my feet! Results were good, gained solid mass n lost fat.. Shutdown also bad, pct was also tough.. This was 100 or 150 cc eod, I forget, but was 6 weeks

    Oral winny- dried me out the most, great strength gains, good energy, overall the best n most effective/least harsh.. It was 50mg daily. for 6 weeks

    Hope this helps. IMHO there's safer, equally ss effective n less harsh things u could take.. IMO unless you're a competing athlete or have secure hormonal issues, steroids r pointless n will only CAUSE problems.. Hope this helped

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    For those that have used both .....

    Comparable?
    Pm sent but not showing in my outbox.. U get one from me?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by MTAC View Post
    PS listen to JB, he knows his stuff!!!!!
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    see look at this guy he took on cycle of pstanz at 300mgs for just 6 weeks and went from 155 pound to this ...... crazy right ? lmoa
    goodluck bro
    Lol

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  17. pstanz is an oral non methylated steroid.

    instead of a 17a methyl group, it has a thp ether (partial ether) group.

    pro stanozol is non methylated version of winstrol.

    both active steroids.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked

    Lol

    Nope
    Wow it was so long too

  19. Just checked again.
    Nothing

    That blowsq
    Sorry brother


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  20. Sent new one lol

  21. I am planing on running pstanz +hdrol dosed at 150 mg pstanz and 75 hdrol.Try this,seems to get good feed back.I would go with p-stanz because looking for oral winny/inject winny online comes up with some MEGA unreliable sources on the web which is how most people get their anabolics.Pstanz is easily available(for those with hook ups to real winny congratz and wish I had some of your sources just to try,Your lucky) which is the main difference between the 2 except for pstanz being liver friendly ish.

    Side note:150 mg pstanz is the recommended on an information site I use so I will follow that.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt
    I am planing on running pstanz +hdrol dosed at 150 mg pstanz and 75 hdrol.Try this,seems to get good feed back.I would go with p-stanz because looking for oral winny/inject winny online comes up with some MEGA unreliable sources on the web which is how most people get their anabolics.Pstanz is easily available(for those with hook ups to real winny congratz and wish I had some of your sources just to try,Your lucky) which is the main difference between the 2 except for pstanz being liver friendly ish.

    Side note:150 mg pstanz is the recommended on an information site I use so I will follow that.
    I'm gonna use it with hdrol at 350/75

  23. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    I'm gonna use it with hdrol at 350/75
    I'm still quite new to PH's and I know how I react to hdrol.Pstanz?I would rather go with 150 because I don't know how I react to that ph.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    You both are wrong, google, then try again
    um no, I'm correct. Better check your facts.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by jason79 View Post
    It's not a PH to stanozolol. P-stanz is a PH to unmethylated stanozolol. Without the 17a-methyl it's a different compound.
    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    You both are wrong, google, then try again
    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    pstanz is an oral non methylated steroid.

    instead of a 17a methyl group, it has a thp ether (partial ether) group.

    pro stanozol is non methylated version of winstrol.

    both active steroids.
    See what I had posted above. How was that wrong? I basically said the same thing you did in the above quote. Again, p-stanz is is unmethylated stanozolol with a 17b-THP. Note also that it's a 17b-THP, so technically your phrasing above is a bit inaccurate. It isn't "instead of a 17a-methyl". This implies that it has a 17a-THP which is incorrect.

    Upon ingestion, the THP will dissociate and leave unmethylated stanzolol. In this way it is, in a way, a pro-drug to unmethylated winny. Since it lacks the 17a-methyl, the pharmacokinetics will be quite different from winny.

  26. You said it was a PH to unmethylated stano, that was what was wrong. It's already active. And the rest of your post is like a little kid.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    You said it was a PH to unmethylated stano, that was what was wrong. It's already active. And the rest of your post is like a little kid.


    mucho gracias

    to those that care, I applogize for not specifying the thp ether molecule is attached to the 17b-ol part of the steroid.

    the thp ether group is like a ester attached to a steroid molecule (though they are removed via different means, ester's (like test-e,a,c..etc) are removed via enzymes in the blood, allowing the steroid to become active) and with pstanz, the thp ether group is removed via the stomach acids, leaving a fully active steroid.

    the partial ether group is just a method of protection, like esters, methyls, ethyls, etc. the compound does not convert into anything except inactive metabolites, and is not a pro hormone.

    effects are very similar, if not identical (though for this to happen, dosing would need to be ran higher) to it's 17aa methylated big brother.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by jason79 View Post
    It's not a PH to stanozolol. P-stanz is a PH to unmethylated stanozolol. Without the 17a-methyl it's a different compound.
    hah wrong
    For me, the action IS the juice.

  29. JB. Which brand should I get


    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post


    mucho gracias

    to those that care, I applogize for not specifying the thp ether molecule is attached to the 17b-ol part of the steroid.

    the thp ether group is like a ester attached to a steroid molecule (though they are removed via different means, ester's (like test-e,a,c..etc) are removed via enzymes in the blood, allowing the steroid to become active) and with pstanz, the thp ether group is removed via the stomach acids, leaving a fully active steroid.

    the partial ether group is just a method of protection, like esters, methyls, ethyls, etc. the compound does not convert into anything except inactive metabolites, and is not a pro hormone.

    effects are very similar, if not identical (though for this to happen, dosing would need to be ran higher) to it's 17aa methylated big brother.
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  30. cel, lgi are the two I know that make a solo prostanozol clone. i'd have to check, but pstanz (cel) is easily attainable still.
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