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    Ramping up ultradrol dose


    I have been running ultradrol at 8mg for the past two weeks, I am upping to 12 mg today. Any thoughts on dosing 4mg in the morning and then 8mg preworkout vs. 4mg am./4mg mid day/4mg evening (workout is mid day)?

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    Well since Ultradrol is only active in your body for about 7 hours I would go with 4mg 3x a day. This way you can keep a baseline or a constant level in your system. Especially when you sleep....for your recovery. You will love the 12mg a day man. Just watch for those sides.
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    That is what I planned on but the other dosing schedule just crossed my mind this morning. What sides did you see at 12mg? I havent had any at 8mg.
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    Blood pressure, Lethargy, Sweating (drink water) and of course you always risk liver toxcicity so make sure you take liver support and if you need to bump that dose up too. What are you going to use for your PCT? At a higher dose I recommend a more intense PCT. I ran ultra at 12mg my first cycle then for my second on it i bumped to 16mg for a week and it was pointless. You get the same effects at 12mg but without the toxcicity levels. Side effects are different from person to person.
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    I am taking CEL cycle support and fish oil with the normal supps I use right now. I ran two cycles of methyl V which is an SD clone prior to this so compared to that ultradrol seems to have way less sides. I definitly had all the sides you described when on the other cycles. Doesn't mean that i wont get them now since i am upping the dose but i love how i have felt so far. I plan on doing clomid and daa as pct, i might adjust that depends on how my body feels at the end of the cycle. What pct did you use?
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    How much have u gained and in how long of time?
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    5lbs in 2 weeks. I still have 3 weeks on cycle at higher dose. The thing that impressed me was strength gains on such a low dose. I have always had poor high rep endurance. Before i started i did 185 3 sets of 12 flat bench with short rest, last week did it with 225lbs.
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    i didn't see any sides at 12mg's, it felt safer than superdrol at 10mg.
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    Damn lol I want some Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPman View Post
    I am taking CEL cycle support and fish oil with the normal supps I use right now. I ran two cycles of methyl V which is an SD clone prior to this so compared to that ultradrol seems to have way less sides. I definitly had all the sides you described when on the other cycles. Doesn't mean that i wont get them now since i am upping the dose but i love how i have felt so far. I plan on doing clomid and daa as pct, i might adjust that depends on how my body feels at the end of the cycle. What pct did you use?
    I used CEL cycle support throught the cycle with RS-Transaderm to keep my libido up. for my off cycle I used Titanium XL, Clomid at 50/50/50/25 and DAA along with other miscelaneous supps for joints and such. I gained 15lbs and after pct kept a solid dry 8 lbs. That was my second cycle of Ultra and my first i had more gains. The strength is impressive I kept most of it too. Keep it up and kill that Sh*t in the gym.

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    If you're concerned about lethargy, I'd consider adding in Transaderm or M1D to get a little test base to help out. From what I've heard, you'll have fun at 12mg. Ultradrol is definitely a compound I've wanted to play with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    If you're concerned about lethargy, I'd consider adding in Transaderm or M1D to get a little test base to help out. From what I've heard, you'll have fun at 12mg. Ultradrol is definitely a compound I've wanted to play with.
    I second this advice. And it is something you should really try. The PCT was much easier than most and I was back to normal in no time. Since you are a bigger guy I would try going up to 16mg for your second cycle if you dont get any sides at 12mg. I am a little smaller and 12mg was plenty for me to keep gaining.

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    Thanks for all the feedback on pct guys. I will definitly be doing another cycle of ultra after this one. And I agree that ultra feels safer than SD, I think I will go ahead and pick up some more since the price is so low compared to SD.
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    No problem man. Keep hitting the gym hard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPman View Post
    Thanks for all the feedback on pct guys. I will definitly be doing another cycle of ultra after this one. And I agree that ultra feels safer than SD, I think I will go ahead and pick up some more since the price is so low compared to SD.
    How's it going with the 12 mgs??
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    Strength still coming and no sides. So far I have made strength gains similar to if not better than SD. Not as much in size though.
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    thats cause you ran such a low dose. should of went 16-20mg, or maybe even 24mg.
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    I am tempted to up it next week to 16mg and see how that feels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPman View Post
    I am tempted to up it next week to 16mg and see how that feels.
    Do it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPman View Post
    I am tempted to up it next week to 16mg and see how that feels.
    alot of people are going even higher than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPman
    I am tempted to up it next week to 16mg and see how that feels.
    I took 24mgs my first two weeks of cycle. Now I upped to 32mg. I have had no sides what so ever. Strength is up and have put on about 12lbs. I'm a big guy though. 6'5" 257lbs now thanx to ultradrol. I have been using cycle assist at recommended dosage it is working great for me
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    That's high. How are the sides
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    Absolutely no sides at all for me. That's why I went ahead and went to 32mg. I still have no sides. And thinking about extending a week on my cycle
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    Hmmm.....
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    Upping to 24mg today and thinking about an extra week also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illwill0481 View Post
    Absolutely no sides at all for me. That's why I went ahead and went to 32mg. I still have no sides. And thinking about extending a week on my cycle
    Are you noticing good strength gains??

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    told y'all so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illwill0481 View Post
    Absolutely no sides at all for me. That's why I went ahead and went to 32mg. I still have no sides. And thinking about extending a week on my cycle
    Cool to hear that the sides are minimal at that dosage. Granted, I guess it's more difficult for your liver to process that amount, but it sounds pretty manageable. Good to hear you're enjoying it. Keep us posted on your results.

    Speaking in general about AAS, there is an extent of decreasing returns with increasing dosage though. More is not always better, as in doubling your dose won't double your gains. Most are already aware of this of course, I'm just saying. The only reason I mention it in the first place is for two personal reasons:
    UD isn't super cheap, but I am lol.
    I put on 18 lbs and stayed at the same bodyfat percentage running UD for 4 weeks at only 12 mg/day.

    Anyway, I'm just blabbing. Something to think about. Honestly, I'm glad you guys are running it high so we know how it affects people at that dose. Even better would be some post cycle blood work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonny784 View Post
    Cool to hear that the sides are minimal at that dosage. Granted, I guess it's more difficult for your liver to process that amount, but it sounds pretty manageable. Good to hear you're enjoying it. Keep us posted on your results.

    Speaking in general about AAS, there is an extent of decreasing returns with increasing dosage though. More is not always better, as in doubling your dose won't double your gains. Most are already aware of this of course, I'm just saying. The only reason I mention it in the first place is for two personal reasons:
    UD isn't super cheap, but I am lol.
    I put on 18 lbs and stayed at the same bodyfat percentage running UD for 4 weeks at only 12 mg/day.

    Anyway, I'm just blabbing. Something to think about. Honestly, I'm glad you guys are running it high so we know how it affects people at that dose. Even better would be some post cycle blood work.
    Was it your first cycle??

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    If you gained weight and bf didn't change, you got a bit fatter as well.

    Just want to point this out.

    Any ways, i think 12mg was okay, but not strong enough, much like 10mg is great, but you quickly find yourself wanting what 20mg will bring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Was it your first cycle??

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    Yes. I think I have some genetic propensity to respond well to AAS. My brother is the same way.

    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    If you gained weight and bf didn't change, you got a bit fatter as well.

    Just want to point this out.

    Any ways, i think 12mg was okay, but not strong enough, much like 10mg is great, but you quickly find yourself wanting what 20mg will bring.
    Yea you're absolutely right jbryan. It is a percentage after all. Definitely put on some fat as well along with some water retention at the end of the four weeks.
    And don't get me wrong, if I did it again, I'd definitely bump the dose.
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    first cycles are almost always impressive regardless of what you take
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    yea, first cycles always have the best gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    yea, first cycles always have the best gains.
    Well damn it. Sh1tty balls lol. Jk.

    But what do you think the basis for this is though?
    It would make sense that as you neared you're genetic size potential, gains would slow down and muscle mass progress would become more difficult (not that I'm anywhere near that point yet). But still that all depends on where you start out. I know what the traditional answer to this question is, but I've read in the literature that androgen receptor down regulation is unsubstantiated. I guess now I'll have to dig it up again.
    Can anyone think of other possible reasons why first cycle gains are so powerful or why subsequent gains would be less so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta

    Are you noticing good strength gains??

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    Yeah I definitely have some strength gains. Its nothing to crazy but most of my lifts are up a bit
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    because compounds such as these bind with/interact with the androgen receptor so much more strongly than testosterone, as well as have a half life 2-4 times that of testosterone.

    you unlock a door to gene's that havn't been used. and as you get bigger and bigger, growth slows down cause even it has it's limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    because compounds such as these bind with/interact with the androgen receptor so much more strongly than testosterone, as well as have a half life 2-4 times that of testosterone.

    you unlock a door to gene's that havn't been used. and as you get bigger and bigger, growth slows down cause even it has it's limits.
    Well put.
  

  
 

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