Ramping up ultradrol dose

[Bigchourico]

I am tempted to up it next week to 16mg and see how that feels.

alot of people are going even higher than that.

[illwill0481]

I am tempted to up it next week to 16mg and see how that feels.

I took 24mgs my first two weeks of cycle. Now I upped to 32mg. I have had no sides what so ever. Strength is up and have put on about 12lbs. I'm a big guy though. 6'5" 257lbs now thanx to ultradrol. I have been using cycle assist at recommended dosage it is working great for me

[Airborne42]

That's high. How are the sides

[illwill0481]

Absolutely no sides at all for me. That's why I went ahead and went to 32mg. I still have no sides. And thinking about extending a week on my cycle

[Airborne42]

Hmmm.....

[JPman]

Upping to 24mg today and thinking about an extra week also.

[vidapreta]

Absolutely no sides at all for me. That's why I went ahead and went to 32mg. I still have no sides. And thinking about extending a week on my cycle

Are you noticing good strength gains??

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[jbryand101b]

told y'all so.

[Jonny784]

Absolutely no sides at all for me. That's why I went ahead and went to 32mg. I still have no sides. And thinking about extending a week on my cycle

Cool to hear that the sides are minimal at that dosage. Granted, I guess it's more difficult for your liver to process that amount, but it sounds pretty manageable. Good to hear you're enjoying it. Keep us posted on your results.

Speaking in general about AAS, there is an extent of decreasing returns with increasing dosage though. More is not always better, as in doubling your dose won't double your gains. Most are already aware of this of course, I'm just saying. The only reason I mention it in the first place is for two personal reasons:
UD isn't super cheap, but I am lol.
I put on 18 lbs and stayed at the same bodyfat percentage running UD for 4 weeks at only 12 mg/day.

Anyway, I'm just blabbing. Something to think about. Honestly, I'm glad you guys are running it high so we know how it affects people at that dose. Even better would be some post cycle blood work.

[vidapreta]

Cool to hear that the sides are minimal at that dosage. Granted, I guess it's more difficult for your liver to process that amount, but it sounds pretty manageable. Good to hear you're enjoying it. Keep us posted on your results.

Speaking in general about AAS, there is an extent of decreasing returns with increasing dosage though. More is not always better, as in doubling your dose won't double your gains. Most are already aware of this of course, I'm just saying. The only reason I mention it in the first place is for two personal reasons:
UD isn't super cheap, but I am lol.
I put on 18 lbs and stayed at the same bodyfat percentage running UD for 4 weeks at only 12 mg/day.

Anyway, I'm just blabbing. Something to think about. Honestly, I'm glad you guys are running it high so we know how it affects people at that dose. Even better would be some post cycle blood work.

Was it your first cycle??

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[jbryand101b]

If you gained weight and bf didn't change, you got a bit fatter as well.

Just want to point this out.

Any ways, i think 12mg was okay, but not strong enough, much like 10mg is great, but you quickly find yourself wanting what 20mg will bring.

[Jonny784]

Was it your first cycle??

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Yes. I think I have some genetic propensity to respond well to AAS. My brother is the same way.

If you gained weight and bf didn't change, you got a bit fatter as well.

Just want to point this out.

Any ways, i think 12mg was okay, but not strong enough, much like 10mg is great, but you quickly find yourself wanting what 20mg will bring.

Yea you're absolutely right jbryan. It is a percentage after all. Definitely put on some fat as well along with some water retention at the end of the four weeks.
And don't get me wrong, if I did it again, I'd definitely bump the dose.

[Bigchourico]

first cycles are almost always impressive regardless of what you take

[jbryand101b]

yea, first cycles always have the best gains.

[Bigchourico]

losing your virginity is a wonderful thing.

[Jonny784]

yea, first cycles always have the best gains.

Well damn it. Sh1tty balls lol. Jk.

But what do you think the basis for this is though?
It would make sense that as you neared you're genetic size potential, gains would slow down and muscle mass progress would become more difficult (not that I'm anywhere near that point yet). But still that all depends on where you start out. I know what the traditional answer to this question is, but I've read in the literature that androgen receptor down regulation is unsubstantiated. I guess now I'll have to dig it up again.
Can anyone think of other possible reasons why first cycle gains are so powerful or why subsequent gains would be less so?

[illwill0481]

Are you noticing good strength gains??

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Yeah I definitely have some strength gains. Its nothing to crazy but most of my lifts are up a bit

[jbryand101b]

because compounds such as these bind with/interact with the androgen receptor so much more strongly than testosterone, as well as have a half life 2-4 times that of testosterone.

you unlock a door to gene's that havn't been used. and as you get bigger and bigger, growth slows down cause even it has it's limits.

[Jonny784]

because compounds such as these bind with/interact with the androgen receptor so much more strongly than testosterone, as well as have a half life 2-4 times that of testosterone.

you unlock a door to gene's that havn't been used. and as you get bigger and bigger, growth slows down cause even it has it's limits.

Well put.