Going to run first espitane cycle. How does it look?

[FrankieV]

Im gonna start my first espitane cycle sometime next month. Here's what I have planned:

Weeks 1-5: Espitane 30/30/30/40/40
On cycle: Liv.52, milk thistle

PCT, weeks 6-9: Clomid 50/50/25/25
Also will be taking regular supps (creatine, BCAA's, protein)

How does that look? Anything I should add in? I was told CS and a cortisol blocker were not really necessary for such a mild PH.

[Gerbil]

3 grams of DAA a day during pct will help you get your test production up quicker.

[FrankieV]

3 grams of DAA a day during pct will help you get your test production up quicker.

Thanks, i'll look into that!

[FrankieV]

Bump

[Gerbil]

Just out of curiosity, what are your stats? Age/height/weight

[Dr.Stri8ed]

I would get something for cortisol. Keeping your cortisol low helps u keep fat off which is harder to do once your in your pct, especially since your gonna have to keep your food intake up, and cortisol can rob u of your gains.

[FrankieV]

Just out of curiosity, what are your stats? Age/height/weight

21, 5'10", 170lbs

Also to the other poster, what can you recommend for cortisol?

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Lean xtreme is my favorite.

[FrankieV]

Lean xtreme is my favorite.

Thanks man, ill incorporate that into my cycle as well. I would use it during PCT, correct?

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Thanks man, ill incorporate that into my cycle as well. I would use it during PCT, correct?

Yep. Some type of anti-estrogen wouldn't hurt either, like Erase which is a great OTC AI, of course u run this during your pct too.

[FrankieV]

Yep. Some type of anti-estrogen wouldn't hurt either, like Erase which is a great OTC AI, of course u run this during your pct too.

Espitane already has an AI effect so running an AI alongside is not really necessary. During PCT though, it couldn't hurt.

[Masciaman]

along with the DAA id also get a bottle of erase to start taking the 3rd week of pct and also id extend the cycle to 6 weeks if i were you :P

[thecowkingi]

Hawthorne berry on cycle is bad I heard because it exposes the liver. Don't quote me on that but id look into it .

[CopyCat]

Hawthorne berry on cycle is bad I heard because it exposes the liver. Don't quote me on that but id look into it .

Explain exposes the liver.

[FrankieV]

Hawthorne berry on cycle is bad I heard because it exposes the liver. Don't quote me on that but id look into it .

Source? Also, I don't think hawthorne berry is in Liv.52. Correct me if it is...

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Espitane already has an AI effect so running an AI alongside is not really necessary. During PCT though, it couldn't hurt.

Yeah I mean during your pct.

[FrankieV]

along with the DAA id also get a bottle of erase to start taking the 3rd week of pct and also id extend the cycle to 6 weeks if i were you :P

Ok, so that means I would do 30/30/30/40/40.

[FrankieV]

If I were to use Erase, I would not need DAA and a cortisol blocker, correct?
Erase already boosts test and lowers cortisol while lowering estrogen.

That leaves me with just needing liver support, clomid, and Erase.

[RH2012]

Espitane already has an AI effect so running an AI alongside is not really necessary. During PCT though, it couldn't hurt.

the people selling it make this claim. i tried epi and i feel the only anti-estrogen effect is the same as any other androgenic compound. i dont believe it has an anti aromatase effect.

[FrankieV]

the people selling it make this claim. i tried epi and i feel the only anti-estrogen effect is the same as any other androgenic compound. i dont believe it has an anti aromatase effect.

Of course everyone will react differently, but it is used to fight gyno.
What were your results with it? Also, how does epistane compare to Havoc? I know they are technically the same thing, but people report different results.