Trenazone/Havoc Cycle; Critique

  1. Trenazone/Havoc Cycle; Critique


    Havoc/ Trenazone Cycle Critique/Suggestions

    Cut/Recomping- 500 cal deficit. 36yr 193 5'8" 16%BF
    cycle:
    TZ- 75/75/100/100/125/125
    Epi-0/ 0/ 30/ 30/ 30/ 30

    Supports:
    Hawthorn berry
    CoQ10
    Tudca
    Milkthistle
    Saw Palmetto
    Multi
    Fish oil

    Pct:
    Nolva- 20/20/10/10
    Testforce 2 (6wks)
    Endosurge (4wks)
    Titanium XL (4wks)

    I've ran Protomax twice, Epistane once, 11oxo, and 11kt in the past
    w/ no problems, all were solo. Lil nervous about stacking 2 Ph's, never have before.
    Just looking for some suggestions/ critique.
    Also looking to Recomp. Plan on eating 500cal below maintenance.
    Thanks


  2. nolva is ill-advised with the trenazone type PHs. clomid is usually considered to be a better choice.
    VO2 Max = 58.75mL/kg/min
    ~If Difficult takes a day, impossible takes a week~
    Learn Teach Lead

  3. Thanks never heard thay
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  4. Subbed for info, will be running something similar soon. Also never heard that nolva thing before myself will have to look into it....
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  5. something about nolva and prolactin and 19-nor compounds if I remember when I asked in another thread, I'll dig somewhere.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  6. Here's the post:

    pct

    The reason for not running it as pct is due to a possibility of rebound (from what I can now gather), and it was progersterone and not prolactin.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    Here's the post:

    pct

    The reason for not running it as pct is due to a possibility of rebound (from what I can now gather), and it was progersterone and not prolactin.

    ManBeast
    Interesting good info manbeast!
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  8. Guess I better order some Clomid; i've used iron dragon chem site a while back can anyone p m another jst in case? thanks guys

  9. We don't really discuss those kinda "sources" here either being that they are a grey area legally.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    Here's the post:

    pct

    The reason for not running it as pct is due to a possibility of rebound (from what I can now gather), and it was progersterone and not prolactin.

    ManBeast
    your reasoning sounds very accurate to me. unfortunately, i can actually attest getting some nasty rebound gyno a few weeks after my nolva-based pct ended for an epi+tren ph cycle.... very similar to yours, op. (my cycle had the oral tren-x ph though, not the trenazone, some compound though).
    VO2 Max = 58.75mL/kg/min
    ~If Difficult takes a day, impossible takes a week~
    Learn Teach Lead

  11. Quote Originally Posted by heebs10 View Post
    your reasoning sounds very accurate to me. unfortunately, i can actually attest getting some nasty rebound gyno a few weeks after my nolva-based pct ended for an epi+tren ph cycle.... very similar to yours, op. (my cycle had the oral tren-x ph though, not the trenazone, some compound though).
    Great, thanks guys. Gonna order some clomid from Purity solutions, prices is unbeatable! Also gonna replace the Endosurge or Titanium w/ some erase. Any suggestions there?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by pigpen75 View Post
    Great, thanks guys. Gonna order some clomid from Purity solutions, prices is unbeatable! Also gonna replace the Endosurge or Titanium w/ some erase. Any suggestions there?
    idk if your allowed to say exactly where your gonna get your chems from so be careful with that. i ordered some letro from a research company that claims to have solutions of a high purity for my lab rat. this solution, however, is not very pure... it is very under dosed, if it even contains what its said to contain at all. my rat was using letro from a different company and then switched to this companies' letro and he clearly began to notice it was significantly weaker then the letro he was using prior to this, despite using what was supposedly the same dosage. just an FYI
    VO2 Max = 58.75mL/kg/min
    ~If Difficult takes a day, impossible takes a week~
    Learn Teach Lead

  13. Ok thanks, I usually don't mention sources, however w/ purity solutions being a pretty big AM board sponsor I doubt anyone will care. Found some other locals i'll chk out thanks bro
  

  
 

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