Trenazone/Havoc Cycle; Critique

[pigpen75]

[h=2]Havoc/ Trenazone Cycle Critique/Suggestions[/h]

Cut/Recomping- 500 cal deficit. 36yr 193 5'8" 16%BF

cycle:
TZ- 75/75/100/100/125/125
Epi-0/ 0/ 30/ 30/ 30/ 30

Supports:
Hawthorn berry
CoQ10
Tudca
Milkthistle
Saw Palmetto
Multi
Fish oil

Pct:
Nolva- 20/20/10/10
Testforce 2 (6wks)
Endosurge (4wks)
Titanium XL (4wks)

I've ran Protomax twice, Epistane once, 11oxo, and 11kt in the past
w/ no problems, all were solo. Lil nervous about stacking 2 Ph's, never have before.
Just looking for some suggestions/ critique.
Also looking to Recomp. Plan on eating 500cal below maintenance.
Thanks​

 

[heebs10]

nolva is ill-advised with the trenazone type PHs. clomid is usually considered to be a better choice.

 

[pigpen75]

Thanks never heard thay

 

[LiveToLift]

Subbed for info, will be running something similar soon. Also never heard that nolva thing before myself will have to look into it....

 

[ManBeast]

something about nolva and prolactin and 19-nor compounds if I remember when I asked in another thread, I'll dig somewhere.

ManBeast

 

[ManBeast]

Here's the post:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191968-pct.html#post3194340

The reason for not running it as pct is due to a possibility of rebound (from what I can now gather), and it was progersterone and not prolactin.

ManBeast

 

[LiveToLift]

Here's the post:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191968-pct.html#post3194340

The reason for not running it as pct is due to a possibility of rebound (from what I can now gather), and it was progersterone and not prolactin.

ManBeast

Interesting good info manbeast!

 

[pigpen75]

Guess I better order some Clomid; i've used iron dragon chem site a while back can anyone p m another jst in case? thanks guys

 

[ManBeast]

We don't really discuss those kinda "sources" here either being that they are a grey area legally.

ManBeast

 

[heebs10]

Here's the post:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191968-pct.html#post3194340

The reason for not running it as pct is due to a possibility of rebound (from what I can now gather), and it was progersterone and not prolactin.

ManBeast

your reasoning sounds very accurate to me. unfortunately, i can actually attest getting some nasty rebound gyno a few weeks after my nolva-based pct ended for an epi+tren ph cycle.... very similar to yours, op. (my cycle had the oral tren-x ph though, not the trenazone, some compound though).

 

[pigpen75]

your reasoning sounds very accurate to me. unfortunately, i can actually attest getting some nasty rebound gyno a few weeks after my nolva-based pct ended for an epi+tren ph cycle.... very similar to yours, op. (my cycle had the oral tren-x ph though, not the trenazone, some compound though).

Great, thanks guys. Gonna order some clomid from Purity solutions, prices is unbeatable! Also gonna replace the Endosurge or Titanium w/ some erase. Any suggestions there?

 

[heebs10]

Great, thanks guys. Gonna order some clomid from Purity solutions, prices is unbeatable! Also gonna replace the Endosurge or Titanium w/ some erase. Any suggestions there?

idk if your allowed to say exactly where your gonna get your chems from so be careful with that. i ordered some letro from a research company that claims to have solutions of a high purity for my lab rat. this solution, however, is not very pure... it is very under dosed, if it even contains what its said to contain at all. my rat was using letro from a different company and then switched to this companies' letro and he clearly began to notice it was significantly weaker then the letro he was using prior to this, despite using what was supposedly the same dosage. just an FYI

 

[pigpen75]

Ok thanks, I usually don't mention sources, however w/ purity solutions being a pretty big AM board sponsor I doubt anyone will care. Found some other locals i'll chk out thanks bro