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New Cycle: Bread n Butter

handzilla

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I'm most likely going to run this in few months:

Weeks 1 & 2: 5-10mg M1T, 300-400mg transdermal 4ad
Weeks 3 - 6: 300-400mg transdermal 1-test, 300-400mg transdermal 4ad, 12mg MOHN
Weeks 7-10 : Nolva, 40, 40, 20, 20

Let me know of your thoughts and opinions on this.
 
Since the 1-test takes (10-14days to kick in) - why don't you do 4weeks of 1-test and then the 2 weeks of the M1T
 
Deoudes59 said:
Since the 1-test takes (10-14days to kick in) - why don't you do 4weeks of 1-test and then the 2 weeks of the M1T
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Hmmmmmm, not a bad idea, but I think I'd rather just start the 1-test at a small dose at the same time I begin the M1T instead. That way when I finish the M1T the 1-test will be in effect.
 
handzilla said:
Hmmmmmm, not a bad idea, but I think I'd rather just start the 1-test at a small dose at the same time I begin the M1T instead. That way when I finish the M1T the 1-test will be in effect.
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M1T weeks 1-2
1Test week 2 - finish
M4OHN 2 - finish (only use if your going to use for 4weeks)
4-ad Throughout

(keep in mind M1T is stilling working for a handful of days after you discontinue use - so you'll be set regardless if the 1-test has fully kicked in)
 
Deoudes59 said:
M1T weeks 1-2
1Test week 2 - finish
M4OHN 2 - finish (only use if your going to use for 4weeks)
4-ad Throughout

(keep in mind M1T is stilling working for a handful of days after you discontinue use - so you'll be set regardless if the 1-test has fully kicked in)
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Looks better to me, I almost forgot that M1T lingers. Only thing is that I don't wanna stack 2 methyls at once.

Is it necessary to do a cycle of MOHN by itself, before I stack all of these?
 
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I'd run 1-test the whole time and drop the MOHN. Basically, kickstarting a 6 week 1-test/4-ad cycle with a touch of M1T. Maybe some HCG towards the end would be good, too. And I would start the nolva at 60 mg/day.
 
PirateFromHell said:
I'd run 1-test the whole time and drop the MOHN. Basically, kickstarting a 6 week 1-test/4-ad cycle with a touch of M1T. Maybe some HCG towards the end would be good, too. And I would start the nolva at 60 mg/day.
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60mg! Damn it's that serious huh. I definitely don't have any access to HCG.

If it's gonna be that tough to restart my natural test, then maybe I should break the cycle into short cycles.

Why drop the MOHN?
 
I would run the 1-test and 4ad throughout like mentioned by someone else. I have seen alot of poeple say that if you are going to use m4ohn you shoudl use it for at least 4 weeks so depending on how long your cycle is you can add that.
 
handzilla said:
I'm most likely going to run this in few months:

Weeks 1 & 2: 5-10mg M1T, 300-400mg transdermal 4ad
Weeks 3 - 6: 300-400mg transdermal 1-test, 300-400mg transdermal 4ad, 12mg MOHN
Weeks 7-10 : Nolva, 40, 40, 20, 20

Let me know of your thoughts and opinions on this.
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I've done that cycle, except I ran the MOHN in the middle for 20 days and then did 20 days of 1-T + 4Ad /trans.

I think you should do a PCT after week 2.
 
MightyMouse69 said:
I've done that cycle, except I ran the MOHN in the middle for 20 days and then did 20 days of 1-T + 4Ad /trans.

I think you should do a PCT after week 2.
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So you did M1T for 2 weeks, MOHN for 20 days, then the 1-test 4ad.

What kind of gains did you see on this cycle?

Did you do PCT in between M1T and MOHN?
 
handzilla said:
So you did M1T for 2 weeks, MOHN for 20 days, then the 1-test 4ad.

What kind of gains did you see on this cycle?

Did you do PCT in between M1T and MOHN?
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I did PCT for 14 days between the M1-T and MOHN and by the end of the cycle gained like around 7 lbs of mass...shed the water already.
 
MightyMouse69 said:
I did PCT for 14 days between the M1-T and MOHN and by the end of the cycle gained like around 7 lbs of mass...shed the water already.
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What did you use for PCT in between and what did you use after the MOHN?
 
handzilla said:
60mg! Damn it's that serious huh.
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6 weeks at these doses and you will be shut down pretty hard, and might have some testicular atrophy. Your PCT should be aggressive.
 
PirateFromHell said:
6 weeks at these doses and you will be shut down pretty hard, and might have some testicular atrophy. Your PCT should be aggressive.
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Maybe I'b be better off doing PCT in between the M1T and the MOHN, 1-test, 4ad.
 
I always liked this idea:
(transdermal)
1-6 200mg 4AD/ 200mg OHT /day
1-4 200mg 1-test /day
5-6 20mg M5 /day

PCT w/HCG & Nolva

BV
 
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