Helladrol First Cycle Ever Please Help...

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  1. Why do you say that why not take it on cycle and post cycle?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
    Don't save it for PCT. Creatine should be used on cycle, off cycle, and in between cycles.....in other words DON'T COME OFF OF IT!!

    Creatine is much more effective on cycle IMO
    I agree with this. I take creatine year round. I never stop taking it. Even when i'm dieting down.

  3. So I'm gonna start my helladrol cycle in the next 2 weeks,I'm gonna take torem for pct with other supps,now do I need to add erase in my pct too or i dont need it?
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  4. From what I was told was to throw it in just to be safe

  5. So I'm gonna be starting my cycle soon at 75/75/75/75/100/100
    Cycle assist
    Fish oil
    Multi vit

    Pct assist
    DAA
    Erase

    When should I start the erase?

  6. Quote Originally Posted by DeChicchis91
    So I'm gonna be starting my cycle soon at 75/75/75/75/100/100
    Cycle assist
    Fish oil
    Multi vit

    Pct assist
    DAA
    Erase

    When should I start the erase?
    Probably around week 3 as cortisol begins to rise around the end of the second week of PCT

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Nickmort View Post
    Probably around week 3 as cortisol begins to rise around the end of the second week of PCT
    Honestly I think that's all moot point. You can start it at the beginning of PCT or towards the end IMO.

  8. Should I throw in an extra test booster or is DAA good enough and is it alright to do 50mgs the first day to see how my body reacts then go straight to 75?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by DeChicchis91
    Should I throw in an extra test booster or is DAA good enough and is it alright to do 50mgs the first day to see how my body reacts then go straight to 75?
    An extra booster along with DAA is what I would do. HCGenerate would be ideal, and its on presale right now at ****. Its been out of stock for a while and won't last long if you want to pick some up.
    Recoverbro Elite
    "This is what we've been working on"

  10. Wish I could don't have 70 dollars to put to it on a budget for now is it ok to start helladrol at 75mg and what exactly does pes erase do that DAA and CEL PCT Assist already do for you?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by DeChicchis91
    Wish I could don't have 70 dollars to put to it on a budget for now is it ok to start helladrol at 75mg and what exactly does pes erase do that DAA and CEL PCT Assist already do for you?
    Erase is an AI...and a damn good one at that. A great addition to PCT.
    Recoverbro Elite
    "This is what we've been working on"

  12. So start taking erase 3rd week of pct at 3 caps a day and do I do that until the bottle is gone? And is ok to have just CEL PCT Assist and DAA as my tests boosters cause like I said before I'm on a pretty tight budget I got everything else I need though

  13. wait so are you using a serm or no? If you are using a serm you can start erase week 3... if you are not using a serm id start erase at 3 caps per day starting day 1 pct.

  14. Actually the best way to run a SERM is to run in inversely of your AI.

    So as you begin to taper off of your serm....you begin to ramp up the dosage of the AI

  15. Quote Originally Posted by TheDarkHalf
    Actually the best way to run a SERM is to run in inversely of your AI.

    So as you begin to taper off of your serm....you begin to ramp up the dosage of the AI


    This is ideal....I agree. Starting the AI week 3 is generally the way I do it when your SERM dose is lowered.
    Recoverbro Elite
    "This is what we've been working on"

  16. I prefer the "double taper" approach that Unreal mentioned to the inverse taper myself, we don't want to crush estrogen, we want to control it. Otherwise we'd be running high-dose adex or something in pct.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  17. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    I prefer the "double taper" approach that Unreal mentioned to the inverse taper myself, we don't want to crush estrogen, we want to control it. Otherwise we'd be running high-dose adex or something in pct.

    ManBeast
    So would you start erase 1/2/2/3 and Torem 90/60/60/30? Hey ManBeast what do you think about MK2866? And how would I run this PCT? Do I still need my other support supps?

  18. I'd run them like this (using torem as an example):

    Torem:90/60/60/30/0/0
    Erase:0/3/3/3/2/1

    mk2866 (aka Ostarine) is shaping up to be an incredible compound for several uses. PCT being one of them if dosed 25mg/ed or below to prevent major suppression/shutdown.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  19. now do I still need DAA and a test?

  20. I might not even use an ai if I feel no sides just might save it for my beastdrol cycle but I started helladrol a week ago and my max is up to 315 already

  21. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    I'd run them like this (using torem as an example):

    Torem:90/60/60/30/0/0
    Erase:0/3/3/3/2/1

    mk2866 (aka Ostarine) is shaping up to be an incredible compound for several uses. PCT being one of them if dosed 25mg/ed or below to prevent major suppression/shutdown.

    ManBeast
    I am looking forward to IML releasing their ostarine I am tired of buying questionable products from underground labs..who really knows what you are getting with those... ill prob do some of my own bloodwork experiments to see how suppressive (if at all) it is to ME at around 10 or 20 mg per day. Very promising compound for sure.

  22. Not sure how you'll dose IMLs at that dose seeing as how they are making it 30mg a cap i thought?

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  23. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    Not sure how you'll dose IMLs at that dose seeing as how they are making it 30mg a cap i thought?

    ManBeast
    nope 90 10 mg caps... makes dosing very convenient. That was my concern as well but I saw the rep say it was going to be 10 mg per cap...

  24. Sweet! Ty for the clarification.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  25. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    Not sure how you'll dose IMLs at that dose seeing as how they are making it 30mg a cap i thought?

    ManBeast
    I believe it was 10mgs per cap and 30mgs being the daily serving. 3 caps a day. 90 pills per bottle.
    RecoverBro ELITE

  26. Bit late matt, but thanks bro

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Nickmort View Post
    Probably around week 3 as cortisol begins to rise around the end of the second week of PCT
    lol, where did you learn this? dont you know what happens when you use supraphysiological dosages of androgenic/anabolic substances? the estrogenic/catabolic substances rise.

    increase in aromatase, increase in cortisol. soon as you finish your cycle you already have elevated cortisol levels, and then now, you have that PLUS lowered androgen levels!

  28. So I do or don't need something for cortisol?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by DeChicchis91 View Post
    So I do or don't need something for cortisol?
    You do. But its not 100% necessary. You will probably lose gains if you don't though.
    RecoverBro ELITE
  

  
 

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