This is going to be my first jump into the real deal. It is going to be short and I am really just wanting to see how I react to the compounds.
4 week cycle and hope to gain 5lbs of muscle.
Dbol (oral) 50mg for 1-4
So I have the following questions:
Would m5aa prework be ok?
What PH/PS (transdermal) could I add to this?
Thanks.
I am one of the few people that think dbol only is an all right cycle. Please note that I did not say good, I said alright. But if you do this right you should gain a lot more then 5 pounds.
First off 6 weeks is much better then 4 and it has to be a real cycle. By that I mean you have to eat right, train right, avoid taking shortcuts. Second is you cannot skip on your ancillaries, you need them to make this work right. Also your supplements will make a big difference as well. Protein is a absolute must as always be especially with Dbol. 2g per pound is what you should be doing. DO NOT SKIMP ON THE PCT. I don't know why but people seam to think that there not shut down. Not true, pct is as important as if you were running test.
Here is the basic dbol only cycle:
50mg dbol ed (25mg twice a day)for weeks 1 to 6
.25 to .5 mg of liquidex ed for weeks 1 to 6
10mg of nolvadex ED for weeks 1 to 6
Start PCT week 7 with 40mg of nolvadex ED for two weeks then 20mg ED for another two weeks.
I know of one person that gained 26 pounds and keep 22 lean pounds of them by doing this. If your diet is good and use enough (not too much) AI your gains will be lean. I actually prefer proviron as my AI because it seams to increase the effects of dbol, makes it work better although I couldn't tell you why, 50mg a day will work fine. You can also use Letrozole if you want but then you would have to drop the nolvadex.
Must take supplements include (some people tell me I over do this but I like my liver) :
BTW, these are the amounts I take; you might want to adjust them for you.
Milk thistle. (1000mg concentrated) 4 a day
ALA at least 600mg a day pref 1000mg
Multivitamin twice a day
Potassium 99mg twice a day
One buffered aspirin twice a day
10mg of Policosanol twice a day
For joints below, optional but good idea anyway
Magnesium 400mg twice a day
MSM 500mg twice a day
Glucosamine Extended release 1 gram twice a day
Chondroitin Extended release 800mg twice a day
If you want to run something with the dbol I wouldn't bother with the PH unless you want to run 1-test with it. But test or fina would be a better option, even as transdermals. If you absolutely can't pin then you have another option, trenbolone acetate has about a 25% oral absorbson rate. (This is a waste of money in my opinion, much better to pin it, however it is much better then nothing or just dbol alone). So to dose yourself 50mg of trenbolone a day you have to 200mg worth of pellets, 10 pellets, divided at least twice a day, 5 pellets. I would prefer 90mg a day (oral isn't as effective as inject) but that is expensive (one cart every 5 days so about 270 dollars vs. 134 dollars worth of pellets) if you can swing it that would be much better. So this cycle would look like this:
50mg dbol ed (25mg twice a day) for weeks 1 to 6
200mg finaplex H pellets ED (5 pellets twice a day) for weeks 1 to 6
.25 to .5 mg of liquidex ed for weeks 1 to 6
10mg of nolvadex ED for weeks 1 to 6
Start PCT week 7 with 40mg of nolvadex ED for two weeks then 20mg ED for another two weeks.
Added supplements needed
Cranberry concentrate, 4 twice a day
Distilled water, as much as you can drink a day
1-test transdermal I am sure would be a nice addition to the cycle if you can't swing anything else. But you'll have to ask someone else about the dosage.