IBE EPISTANE CYCLE...need advice..

[punjabimunde]

Ok guys after doing research for more than three months I decided to do my first ph cycle epistane in february...

About myself...I'm 22yrs old weight 180lbs and height about 5'11

I wanna gain little weight like 5lbs but I wanna lose body fat...I think rite now my body fat is around 18 to 20%...so plz give me advice how to dose and wat to eat...

I have few supplements that I'm gonna take with epistane but don't kno that when should I take...I gonna put list of my supplements below so you can tell me when and how much to dose...

Epistane
AI cycle assist
AI pct
Erase
Liquid nolvadex
Forma stanozol(idk I should take this or save it for superdrol cycle later this year)
Orange triad
Testopro
Prime
Protein
DAA
Lclt
Xtend and recover pro
Creatine
Superpump max, white flood

So I have all these supplement so plz advice wat to take and wat not to...

Thank you all in advance

[bigwhiteguy29]

Epi 20/30/30/40/40
Cycle assist



PCT

nolva 20/20/10/10
DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g
cycle assist
AI PCT
start prime and testopro when nolva is done.
save the form

Erase 0/0/0/1/2/3/3/2/1

[punjabimunde]

Epi 20/30/30/40/40
Cycle assist

PCT

nolva 20/20/10/10
DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g
cycle assist
AI PCT
start prime and testopro when nolva is done.
save the form

Erase 0/0/0/1/2/3/3/2/1

Wow this looks sooo perfect....thanks bigwhite

One question...why prime and testopro after nolva??? To get my strength back or for something else?? And I have agmatine too?? Should I use that too and what about lclt and preworkout???

[bigwhiteguy29]

Wow this looks sooo perfect....thanks bigwhite

One question...why prime and testopro after nolva??? To get my strength back or for something else?? And I have agmatine too?? Should I use that too and what about lclt and preworkout???

on cycle due to blood pressure i only use a very small amount of pre. limit to just a scoop or none at all. agmatine whenever and wtf is lclt lol???

yeah start those two test boosters after the nolva and daa to keep gains and work on natty test and libido. also you dont wanna run testopro the first 4 weeks due to it having siniging nettle root which is just freeing up test not creating total T. Prime is just whatever : / not a fan of USP.

[punjabimunde]

Lclt stands for L-Carnitine-L-tartrate...

So it doesn't matter I take prime or not...so can just take testopro??

[punjabimunde]

And what about bcaa??

[fame126]

Bcaa morning, during workout, and evening at least 3 times a day will help u lean out

[punjabimunde]

Bcaa morning, during workout, and evening at least 3 times a day will help u lean out

Perfect...any other advise you wanna give??

[Roniboney]

Epi

5 week EPI cycle

30/40/40/40/40 The sweet spot for EPI is between 30-40mg.No point in taking 20mg in my opinion

On cycle: Cycle Support AI 5 weeks

PCT:

erase 0/2/3/2/2/1 test booster+anti cortisol

Nolva 20/20/10/10

HCGenerate 5 caps a day gets libido up and can raise test and lower estrogen

NAC (n-acetyl cycteine) 1000mg Every day antioxidant and immune function

Vitamin C 1000mg x4 a day AM,PRE-wo,POST-wo,PRE-BED

[punjabimunde]

Epi

5 week EPI cycle

30/40/40/40/40 The sweet spot for EPI is between 30-40mg.No point in taking 20mg in my opinion

On cycle: Cycle Support AI 5 weeks

PCT:

erase 0/2/3/2/2/1 test booster+anti cortisol

Nolva 20/20/10/10

HCGenerate 5 caps a day gets libido up and can raise test and lower estrogen

NAC (n-acetyl cycteine) 1000mg Every day antioxidant and immune function

Vitamin C 1000mg x4 a day AM,PRE-wo,POST-wo,PRE-BED

Thanks for advise...but I don't have some of the supps u wrote...on top I put wat supps I have so plz choose from those..

[Roniboney]

Thanks for advise...but I don't have some of the supps u wrote...on top I put wat supps I have so plz choose from those..

my mistake

epi at 30/40/40/40/40

AI-Cycle Assist

PCT:
just use erase as your test booster +anti-cortisol at 0/2/3/2/2/1
AI pct
Nolva at 20/20/10/10
DAA as bigwhiteguy29 laid out

For EPI you will be fine with that




Save the rest for your superdrol cycle.How much of each of these products do you have?Can you dose them as laid out?

[punjabimunde]

Yes I have two bottles of epi...and rest I have one bottle of each...

[punjabimunde]

I saw that you taking epistane too...how's it going??

[Sourdough]

Epistane 20/20/30/30/30
AI cycle assist rec dose
Orange triad (i get dried out from epi)
Lclt 2-4g ed (through PCT as well, stuff is cheap, run it as much as possible)
Creatine 5g ed (through PCT as well, this stuff is even CHEAPER, run as much as possible with seldom breaks for kidneys)


AI pct rec dose
Liquid nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Forma stanozol or Erase 0/0/25/50/75/75/25 (similar dosing for Forma stanozol, max dose in 1/3rds ramp up then down starting 3rd week of PCT)
DAA 3g ed through PCT
Superpump max OR white flood pre workout for maintaining drive and strength in the gym

Testopro (post PCT test optimization)
Prime (post PCT for gains/strength retention)

Protein (throughout)
Xtend and recover pro (throughout, taken at least pre/intra workout, I like to take occasional doses upon waking or going to bed as well)

[punjabimunde]

Thanks sourdough

Do you think epi dose is a little low?? Usually everyone say to take 40 or 50..

[Roniboney]

Thanks sourdough

Do you think epi dose is a little low?? Usually everyone say to take 40 or 50..

Ye 40mg is the sweet spot.


Starting my cycle in 2 weeks.Pre-cycling milk thistle,saw palmetto and red yeast rice in a low dose atm.


Looking forward to starting the cycle man.Some of my friends have seen great results from EPI.Its a wonderful product

[Sourdough]

ran Epi at 20-30mg across only 4 weeks and had great results.... Yes you CAN go higher, not really necessary though... IMO.

I think if you have everything dialed in, solid diet, solid routine that you stick to, solid surrounding supplementation... your gonna gain no matter what....


If you have more then one bottle then by all means take it as high as you need to, but dont use more steroids to fill in other holes in your game... most stop gaining on cycle cause they forget to increase cals... whats the first thing they do? increase the dose instead... then your left with MAYBE some more gains but they might as well not be there cause you dont know how to eat to maintain them...

[punjabimunde]

Go it sourdough...thanks again...this is my first ph so I'm gonna log this...I can't wait...so excited...

[Roniboney]

Go it sourdough...thanks again...this is my first ph so I'm gonna log this...I can't wait...so excited...

me and you both dude.PM me the link when you start it and I'll follow along with you

[punjabimunde]

me and you both dude.PM me the link when you start it and I'll follow along with you

For sure bro...I'll be following u...so good luck bro...and I'll pm you once I start the log...