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If clomid raises E2 levels - which OTC AI is best to normalize these levels

uubiduu

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The title already says all...what do you think of Erase? Or is there are a better alternative?
 
i use it at 2-3 caps everyday day on 500mg test e/week

in pct i usually alternate 1 & 2 caps daily... i've found this is all i needed for pct. make sure to keep using it a few weeks after you stop clomid
 
Still looking for bloods that show that Erase actually lowers E2 and by how much?
 
Royd The Noyd said:
Why do you care about E2 while using clomid?
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i've never found clomid to be a good antagonist in the chest... still get itchy nips and tenderness while on it alone. i also never want my androgen/estrogen ratio to be in favor of estrogen regardless of E2 being inhibited binding in certain areas by serms. thats just my preference now after dabbling into hormones and gaining some experience

BBB said:
Still looking for bloods that show that Erase actually lowers E2 and by how much?
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1) i'm not a rep so i'm not going grave digging for old bloods i've seen on here for you

2) Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione (erase) has a Ki value of 0.22 mM

if you still question it based on 2 alone you are out of your mind

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chocolatemilk said:
i use it at 2-3 caps everyday day on 500mg test e/week

in pct i usually alternate 1 & 2 caps daily... i've found this is all i needed for pct. make sure to keep using it a few weeks after you stop clomid
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so when using clomid/nolva for 4 weeks in pct use erase say 2 caps per day and use it for 6 weeks not 4? would that be sufficient for using erase past pct. I just used erase in my pct for hdrol and liked it just not sure how long to take past nolva being finished..
 
bigdavid said:
so when using clomid/nolva for 4 weeks in pct use erase say 2 caps per day and use it for 6 weeks not 4? would that be sufficient for using erase past pct. I just used erase in my pct for hdrol and liked it just not sure how long to take past nolva being finished..
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considering it is a suicide inhibitor yes... a bit longer if possible

i'm OCD about keeping my androgen/estrogen ratio in my favor at all times especially in pct when androgens are at their lowest
 
Royd The Noyd said:
Why do you care about E2 while using clomid?
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i would use clomid to raise test levels to the upper physiological values for a certain time. i wouldn't risk estrogen related sides and i believe an AI could improve the Test/E2 ratio. As clomid raises test, the effect should be only better if the E2 doesn't increase so much as the Test. Unfortunately i haven't seen any bloodwork of simultanoeus use of clomid and erase or another AI
 
uubiduu said:
i would use clomid to raise test levels to the upper physiological values for a certain time. i wouldn't risk estrogen related sides and i believe an AI could improve the Test/E2 ratio. As clomid raises test, the effect should be only better if the E2 doesn't increase so much as the Test. Unfortunately i haven't seen any bloodwork of simultanoeus use of clomid and erase or another AI
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Clomid results in significantly higher test levels moreso than e2. Only reason i would run them at the same time is if gyno was an issue like choco mentioned. Or to taper off clomid.
 
I've been contemplating clomid+arimistane for a while now. Clomid raised my test from 288 to 864 in 4 weeks. But also took estrogen from 39 to 73 in 4 weeks on my dr supervised restart.

I still have a bunch of clomid leftover so I was thinking of running clomid+erase for 4 weeks and continuing the erase with natty anabolic like ABE+ara for anther 4 weeks to take care of the circulating estrogen from clomid

I'm curious though if the Arimistane will keep e2 at bay during the clomid use... That's the key here
 
chedapalooza said:
I've been contemplating clomid+arimistane for a while now. Clomid raised my test from 288 to 864 in 4 weeks. But also took estrogen from 39 to 73 in 4 weeks on my dr supervised restart.

I still have a bunch of clomid leftover so I was thinking of running clomid+erase for 4 weeks and continuing the erase with natty anabolic like ABE+ara for anther 4 weeks to take care of the circulating estrogen from clomid

I'm curious though if the Arimistane will keep e2 at bay during the clomid use... That's the key here
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Have you ever came across bloodwork showing that arimistane influences e2 levels?Me not
 
Go with something more proven like formestane. Erase has a diuretic effect that mimics the effects of an ai, but its estro lowering effects are questionable at best, and flat out doesn't work as an ai for some, as proved by blood work.
 
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