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Delta2? someone break this down for me - thanks

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    Delta2? someone break this down for me - thanks


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    Its non methylated phera I believe.

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    If I remember right, it is a hormone found in boars and elephants and supposedly a metabolite of DHEA.

    5a-Androst-2-ene-17-one (Delta 2) looks to have the same structure as phera except it has a ketone at the 17th position. The manufacture claim this makes it a precursor to a non-methyl phera. So best case scenario is it will convert to a steroid that is similar to phera but without the 17 position methylation. Problem is, methylation makes a HUGE difference with regards to the anabolic effects of the compound. So to compare this to a "non methlyated phera" isnt exactly accurate as this would be waaay different than the anabolic effects you would get from phera.

    For what its worth, PA had commented that 300mg of this would most likely be similar to 25-50mg of protodrol
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    this covers it pretty good. the two molecules shown are not delta 2 though. they are desoxytestosterone and DHEA. i guess they didn't have a pic of delta 2.
    New prohormone: Delta-2
    i wish someone would release desoxytestosterone in a transdermal, or better yet desoxytestosterone cypionate dissolved in oil and benzyl alcohol.
    here is what it looks like. i cant find any numbers on the anabolic properties of it.
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    Thanks all

    I am prolly the only one in this forum who has never run Phera (lol)

    Enlighten me - wet/dry?
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    Originally Posted by Whacked
    Thanks all

    I am prolly the only one in this forum who has never run Phera (lol)

    Enlighten me - wet/dry?
    Lol actually I haven't ran it either. From the logs I've seen, its wet.

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    Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Thanks all

    I am prolly the only one in this forum who has never run Phera (lol)

    Enlighten me - wet/dry?
    lol i had 10 bottles of the original and sold them. then they up and banned the stuff. i wish i had kept a couple. out of all the designers i've tried, i think it had the best "feeling" while on it. i liked it.

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    Originally Posted by RH2012

    lol i had 10 bottles of the original and sold them. then they up and banned the stuff. i wish i had kept a couple. out of all the designers i've tried, i think it had the best "feeling" while on it. i liked it.
    How were your gains?

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    Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    How were your gains?
    good but i cant be specific because i never did a cycle of it solo. i was pinning 4-ad and tren acetate at the same time. i saw i like the way it felt because i started the phera 5-6 days before i started pinning the others. my kit was late.

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    is here anyone who was run delta-2 solo? logs of this compund are very rare in the web and i don't know why. seems to be a very mild compound and not very expensive. would be interesting how suppressive this compund is and if it is better for cutting or bulking

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    Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    Problem is, methylation makes a HUGE difference with regards to the anabolic effects of the compound. So to compare this to a "non methlyated phera" isnt exactly accurate as this would be waaay different than the anabolic effects you would get from phera.
    This stuff isn't dosed the same as phera though.

    Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    this covers it pretty good. the two molecules shown are not delta 2 though. they are desoxytestosterone and DHEA. i guess they didn't have a pic of delta 2.
    New prohormone: Delta-2
    here is what it looks like. i cant find any numbers on the anabolic properties of it.
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    They pictured 2-androstenol and DHEA because they were quoting from Vida('s Androgens and Anabolic Agents). 2-androstenone isn't in there, which is also why you can't find any A:A figures on it.
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    Phera was super wet for me. Good strength, ok weight gain but I got fat. Straight up looked like a kickball afterwards. My lipids were absolute sh*t afterwards as well. Felt very good on cycle though. I wouldn't run it again even if it was legal. Dbol seems like a better choice for me.
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    Wasn't 3AD non methyl phera?
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    Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Wasn't 3AD non methyl phera?
    3-AD was androsterone and 2-androstenol acetate.
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