Yes you will need a PCT, no need for the Nolva on cycle, also you will need to run the AH 16 weeks or more IMO. We have several success stories using V2 on our board, V3 is even stronger.
Holy ****. A 16 week oral cycle?
It's not a methyl and doesn't have the same effects on the liver and lipids.
If you're seeking solely a gyno reduction cycle, then run it solo.
thanks for the info! last question, on the site it says the stack drive+hard for gyno reduction. does drive increase the reduction or is that purely AH?
I would use the Androhard as your circulating DHT if you want to keep it legal (or if you can get masteron you could use that), use andractim as the topical DHT (you can get that by doing a "consultation" at the online place that sells it, then you get a PIN to order with), and also use a topical fat burner such as yohimburn or eviscerate. I found these three work best, especially in combination. oral DHT daily, topical fat burner in the morning, and the andractim at night. This is if you want to throw everything at it before surgery. I suppose it depends on how severe the gyno is in the end as to what result you will get.....but these are the three ways to go after it. Also an AI of some sort, like erase for example, should be included if you ask me.
have you purchased andractim before?
Oh man, many many times. I always forget my PIN for ordering (you get a discount and they save your info).....but I used it on several occasions. It worked, but over time. You have to consult with the doctor online (fill out a form basically)...but You have to give it time to work, not just a few months or whatever. I used it with other methods though, so not sure what % the andractim worked itself.
so you wont see any results even after a couple of months? taking AH, andractim, and yohimburn will reduce the actual gland of gyno correct? this is what i've been doing for the past couple of months
mine was a pretty bad case, so I am sure it takes longer to address the more severe cases.....I know a few folks who used half tube or one tube of andractim and said it remedied their gyno. they probably barely had anything at all though, nothing severe. So it varies case to case. As far as the gland itself? not sure....I know the visual effect was quite dramatic, I couldn't see much remaining at all after about a year of messing with the creams and topicals and masteron, winny, AI etc etc.....I sort of used a mishmosh of a lot of stuff that year, not to get rid of gyno specifically.....but to use performance enhancers to get bigger and leaner, the gyno was a secondary objective so I would use stuff that would be beneficial to getting rid of gyno whenever I could. Personally I think I should be on an AI year round, my body can be an estrogen nightmare if you ask me. the upshot is that everybody's gyno is different, and everybody's body is different so what works for one may not work for another. I figure may as well cover all the angles and hit it with everything, AI's DHT topicals etc
.......it probably regenerates itself like a fuqin alien life form though lol in the end, its probably best to have a one time surgery and get it over with. With all the money you spend on treatments in your lifetime due to flare ups, the expensive surgery will end up being a bargain. but who wants to have surgery? and good luck getting insurance to pay for it, I bet they won't believe it was from puberty, even though much of the time that is exactly the case....I know this recent flare up for me was due to a med i was prescribed (oral spiro/aldactone)...and my doctor knows it....he says it will go away by itself of course....
there is one main legit site out there, has the doctor consultation and the whole nine yards....they make you buy the kit first time.....it has a PSA test kit with andractim tube, then after that initial purchase you can get however many tubes you want at a slight discount. It's all on the up and up. PM me if you are interested in that place, I will check later for you on the exact site ....I have to look it up to be sure of the exact URL....won't be able to do so until later tonight though.
Why a grand for 16 weeks? It is probably more around $500 which is still high. The question remains if it works.
Idk about using Androhard for reduction if the surgery will be 5k vs 1k... That's a lot of money either way but if I was spending it I would go with the sure thing. Just know that after that, no more hormone cycling.
"in theory"........the topical fat burners are supposed to get rid of fat in the area you apply it too.....essentially you are putting it right on the spot as opposed to taking it orally and letting it circulate your system.....it sounds feasible, and you figure with diet/weights/cardio.....if the active ingredients for fat burning are applied on specific areas, you assume that makes sense. So "if" they burn off any fat, it would be permanent.....the only transient part would be when certain ingredients tighten the skin or get rid of excess water, now that part could be termed as not permanent I suppose.
Any links to people who used stano or AH for gyno reduction and saw the benefits discussed? I tried doing a search on it, but I cannot find feedback on it. The main thread on PP about the 16 week challenge seem to have no PP feedback or results reported.
yeah for sure, the topical fat burners will just get rid of the excess fat in the chest area (and more temporarily tighten the area up and act like a diuretic I am sure).....reason I believe using a yohimburn/eviscerate in the morning and then the andractim at night works best. two pronged approach, along with the circulating DHT of your choice. Would be nice if they made an andractim cream with a super duper absorption system, would work much better i bet.
http://www.primordialperformance.com/discussion/primordial-health/2994-official-androhard-thread-effects-androsterone-26.html
One of the PP reps could elaborate on the dermatherm.....but eviscerate compares favorably to yohimburn..... as far as ingredients go, I think dermatherm is meant to take a different/new approach....its topical, but the ingredients are different if I recall.....
Right -- the delivery is awesome, and ingredients are great for mobilizing body fat and concentrating heat on the areas applied. However we do NOT include yohimbine or capsaizen.
Sorry but that isn't true, there have been studies showing DHT's effectiveness in this area, well before epi came out.
Yeah, I am almost certain that masteron and winny help with gyno if taken over time.....it's not like you take one thing at a time though, so it's hard to pinpoint each items effectiveness. But they help for sure with gyno.
Saw palmetto gave you gyno due to its ANTI - DHT properties ---hence anti-androgenic in tissues. Using a product like AndroHard v3 would do the polar opposite of saw palmetto and INCREASE DHT levels and DECREASE estrogen levels, which would help prevent, and partially remedy pre-existing gyno.
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LMFAO....that is one reason I always shyed away from using saw palmetto for prostate issues....It seemed to work for me, and work well, but I was like why am I messing with my DHT? that is a BAD thing is it not? lol....So I always waited for ACTUAL symptoms....and then said OK I'll use it for relief. But I was never comfortable with the anti-DHT stuff due to the fact I figured it could only be bad as far as gyno and other things go....If you need it though I suppose its a necessary evil......
Finastride... I heard so many bad things about that. You guys do suggest SP on AH cycles though right?
Actually we don't since there have been no reports of any prostate issues with AH. If someone is predisposed or worried about it then yes SP is fine or divinil
lets just say i returned from the dead myself.......god bless my dad and his awesome genetics......
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