epi straight or sd pulse
- 11-29-2011, 04:36 PM
epi straight or sd pulse
To start off I am 21 been lifting for 2 years 1 year seriously with proper nutrition and feel I am ready to give anabolics a go. I know once you start there's no going back. My stats are 5 ft 9 174 about 12-14 % bf. I have ran a ignorant cycle in the past with epi hdrol and sdrol I wasn't ready and wanted a quick fix. After losing all my gains and recovering from the damage I caused, I started researching I have been reading this forum daily for ideas and to try an understand. I am a so called noob at this and I know some of you will flame me but I need advice I don't want to go at this ignorantly like I did in the past. I have on hand 3 bottles sd. 2 beastdrol 1 methastadrol. 1 bottle of epistrong. 1 bottle hcgenerate, cycle assist by ai,daa, post cycle assist. I know 3 bottles of sd? I took advantage of the bogo for future use. I am currently working out 3 days a week my question is should I just do a straight 5-6 week epi cycle 30\45\45\45\45\45 preload cycle assist and run through cycle and do my pct with hcgenerate daa and nolva which I need to get before I begin cycle. Or pulse sd 3 days a week on my lifting days 10-20\30 based on if sides occur. I know sd shouldn't be used for a first straight cycle but if I did go with sd it would be pulsed. What do you guys think?
- 11-29-2011, 07:21 PM
11-29-2011, 09:44 PM
11-29-2011, 09:51 PM
Yeah I agree you'd b on some alpha male hulk sh*t with this cycle. However though, if u just wanna run epi, then your set up is good, you'll need a SERM though, clomid or nolva.Originally Posted by gotta get big
11-29-2011, 09:58 PM
Yea I've never ordered from a research chem site but google is a good buddy do you guys prefer liquid or pills
11-29-2011, 10:03 PM
It doesn't matter. I've always used research chems and recovered perfectly fine, so they were legit.
11-29-2011, 10:04 PM
11-29-2011, 10:17 PM
11-29-2011, 10:33 PM
ok so ill preload cycle assist then begin epi 30\45\45\45\45\45 stacked with sd 10\10\10\10\10\10 1st day of pct ill run 3g of daa, hcgenerate, post cycle support and nolva 20\20\10\10? Also will the 3 day a week suffice I know I will recover faster while "on" however I feel 3 days a week works great with me although that's natty. And dosing times I plan on 15 mg epi morning then 6 pm ill dose my sd 10mg epi 15 mg pre workout? How about when the epi goes to 45? 2 am 1 pm pre workout or reverse?
11-29-2011, 10:50 PM
11-30-2011, 05:38 AM
I just want to get the most out of this cycle since I only work out 3 days a week should I keep this cycle as is or just pulse sd on workout days and save the epi for my cut in 5 to 6 months when ill be working out 5 days a week? I'm not diving right in i want to read some more any thoughts? If the original stack looked good ill stay with that
11-30-2011, 09:07 AM
Hmmm well if u can only train 3 days a week then pulsing SD 3 times a week sounds good. Save the epi for your cut like u said. How much SD would u pulse each training day?
11-30-2011, 02:20 PM
I'm not limited to 3 days a week however that is what has been working best for me natty to gain size. Although my recover while "on" will be significantly greater I might switch to a 4 or 5 day a week. Any thoughts?
11-30-2011, 03:36 PM
11-30-2011, 03:38 PM
11-30-2011, 05:17 PM
pulsing isnt the best idea. on paper it looks good but doesnt work out that way in real life. Ive tried it 3 times. Never again.
11-30-2011, 05:23 PM
11-30-2011, 06:34 PM
I totally agree with u. With pulsing u wouldn't have constant levels, it'd b like a rollercoaster and why would u want that with your hormones. I've seen it work for a lot of ppl and others not so much. I don't like the idea tbh.Originally Posted by gymrat827
11-30-2011, 07:01 PM
11-30-2011, 09:21 PM
U know what I'm saying bro, I want my blood dirty everyday on cycle haha. If we're trying to get big, don't half-ass it!Originally Posted by gotta get big
11-30-2011, 10:01 PM
11-30-2011, 11:04 PM
Alright how about preload cycle assist and run through cycle. sd 10\20\20 epi 0\0\30\45\45\45? Tamoxifen 20\20\10\10, with hcgen, 3g daa and pct support? Or sd 10\10\10\10\10\10 and epi 30\45\45\45\60\60 or possibly back to my pulsing question with sd m w f 20-30 and epi ran like previous setup so sd would be 20 pre 10 post 3 days a week. Or should I definately move to 4 or 5 workout days a week I have read both with which were successful
12-01-2011, 10:03 AM
12-01-2011, 01:15 PM
learn why test is best first cycle and why a test base should always be in your cycles (and why oral only cyclea are nto very good), then move on from there. you have alot of researc to do.
if your in no way gonna inject test then at th very least somthing like M1D (DHEA) or transaderm while on the orals is a good idea.
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12-01-2011, 08:50 PM
I would love to run test however I have no way of getting it and my wife and I have already talked about it and I would be looking for a new relationship if I started doing injections even though they are much safer than orals in my oppinion. However all the bs in the media on injections gives it a bad wrap. Good thing she hasn't heard anything on ph\ds
12-01-2011, 08:56 PM
12-01-2011, 09:16 PM
Lol same here. But I would love to actually do a 12 week test cycle but afraid that will never happen. Phs here I come bye bye liver
12-01-2011, 09:18 PM
12-01-2011, 09:24 PM
12-01-2011, 09:30 PM
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