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    (Competitive edge labs) P-MAG cycle


    there a whole bunch of posts about H-drol but havnt seen any about P-mag. Theyre supposedly similar but p-mag is suppose to have less sides so here goes

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    goal: very very lean bulk
    really clean diet..5 meals a day about 2200 calories ill prob cut a few more when i start the cycle.

    Im gonna run it like so 75/75/100/100/100 with the same companys cycle assist..im gonna dose it as recommended..jus wondering a little bit about the pct this is only my second PH cycle ever ive got my serm liquid tamox but what could anyone suggest for an AI? im the same place i got the tamox has letro.. would that work? any other suggestion to add to pct or could i keep gains like that? thanks for any help in advance

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    Not that it matters cuz it doesn't look like anyone's willing to help but the dossings actually gonna be 50/75/100/100/100
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    Not that it matters cuz it doesn't look like anyone's willing to help but the dossings actually gonna be 50/75/100/100/100
    Im not sure, but it may have to do with this statement made....

    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    there a whole bunch of posts about M-drol but havnt seen any about P-mag. Theyre supposedly similar but p-mag is suppose to have less sides
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    Yea, they similar in the way that you shouldn't touch neither of them, untill you do more research!! This info comes by the truck load and is readily available!!
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    i did p-mag as my 3rd cycle and im a lot larger than you. do 50/50/75/75/75/75. 100 doesnt feel any different and more sides come.
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    100mg of Pmag was awesome for me. My first Pmag cycle was 4 weeks @ 50mg, and it went well. No shut down, great energy, and gained a nice 10+ lbs. Second Pmag cycle was 50/75/100/100/100 and i found that 100mg was really the sweet spot for me. Bordered on shut down, but i still felt great. Strength increase was amazing. Gained a bit more weight, but also felt i retained more water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam
    Is this your first cycle?
    First one with p-mag yes..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    Im not sure, but it may have to do with this statement made....
    What's wrong with that statement.. Maybe I was a little superfluous because there's are a few posts but really not a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    Im not sure, but it may have to do with this statement made....
    What's wrong with the statement.. Maybe I was a little superfluous because there are a few posts but not many
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    Im not sure, but it may have to do with this statement made....
    What's wrong with that statement? Maybe I was a little superfluous cuz there are a few post but really not that many
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    Quote Originally Posted by drinkyboy
    Yea, they similar in the way that you shouldn't touch neither of them, untill you do more research!! This info comes by the truck load and is readily available!!
    There's always guys like yu.. I have done research and I still am I'm not jumpin into this cycle like tomorrow.. What's wrong with asking. First hand information is always the best because yu get direct answers especially when it comes from a veteran
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigwhiteguy29
    i did p-mag as my 3rd cycle and im a lot larger than you. do 50/50/75/75/75/75. 100 doesnt feel any different and more sides come.
    Hmm fro what I've heard most people get best results at 100 but I'm a noobie at ph's so I'll see how I feel at 100 and dose it down if I have to
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    if i was running pmag as my first cycle, i would plan to run it at 50mg for 6 weeks, and after about week 3, decide if i want to up it to 75mg for the rest of the time.
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    yea i guess that doesz make more sense considering ive never taken the stuff.thanks for the advice guys..im still wondering about pct? p-mag is a mild ph so can i get away with a serm and AI.im also gonna order pct assist
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    I'm on halotest-25 now. Same thing as p-mag and I paid more, go figure.

    Anyhow the original plan for me was like Rhadam said 50mg for 4 weeks....

    I've been thinking about upping it and I've been thinking about 6 weeks.

    Anyhow Rhadam you said you gained about 10lbs and after the gain how much did you lose if any? I'm only like 4-5 days in so far and at first it had my head cloudy it's gotten better though. I'm just debating on the 6 week deal or upping the cycle or even doing my PCT then taking a month or 2 off and running again so I'm in for suggestions.
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    You don't need letro unless gyno starts to develop bad. Dose it 50/50/75/75/75/75 and drink a ton of water. Take liver support while you're on and throw in a natty test boost like Recycle by Purus in with the SERM. Recycle is a natty boost with an AI. No need for another one.

    I used DAA after my last cycle starting in week 2 of PCT. I loved life. I was shutdown COMPLETELY from a 12 week cycle (SD for 6 weeks bridged to halo for 6 weeks....intense) and the DAA got me feeling like I was 18 again. I went from never wanting to have sex to having sex like 4 times a day. I used a DAA pill from my supp guy but SNS and Purus make good DAA too. I'd use DPol by Purus if I were you.

    No I don't rep for Purus btw...but I think their products are outstanding. Good luck with the cycle man hope you put on some good lean mass.
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    serm, ai, pct assist will be perfect.

    serm for 4 weeks.

    ai starting week 3 of serm.

    pct assist 4 weeks of the serm.
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    There arent many posts about p-mag but its similar to h-drol or any other halodrol clones so the pct can be the same for both..but uve already gotten advice that you should follow here so you are good to go
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    exactly, pmag is so similar to hdrol, just slightly more wet but still dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I'm on halotest-25 now. Same thing as p-mag and I paid more, go figure.

    Anyhow the original plan for me was like Rhadam said 50mg for 4 weeks....

    I've been thinking about upping it and I've been thinking about 6 weeks.

    Anyhow Rhadam you said you gained about 10lbs and after the gain how much did you lose if any? I'm only like 4-5 days in so far and at first it had my head cloudy it's gotten better though. I'm just debating on the 6 week deal or upping the cycle or even doing my PCT then taking a month or 2 off and running again so I'm in for suggestions.
    I'd take 3 months off personally.

    My first P-Mag run where i dosed 50mg for 4 weeks i did gain about 10 or 12 lbs, but i lost all gains after PCT. My diet was ****, and it was my first cycle. Had no clue what i was doing. My second run where i tapered up to 100mg i kept like 8lbs post PCT and i gained some nice strength increases that stayed with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    there a whole bunch of posts about M-drol but havnt seen any about P-mag. Theyre supposedly similar but p-mag is suppose to have less sides so here goes

    stats:
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    bf 17-20%
    goal: very very lean bulk
    really clean diet..5 meals a day about 2200 calories ill prob cut a few more when i start the cycle.

    Im gonna run it like so 75/75/100/100/100 with the same companys cycle assist..im gonna dose it as recommended..jus wondering a little bit about the pct this is only my second PH cycle ever ive got my serm liquid tamox but what could anyone suggest for an AI? im the same place i got the tamox has letro.. would that work? any other suggestion to add to pct or could i keep gains like that? thanks for any help in advance
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    What's wrong with that statement.. Maybe I was a little superfluous because there's are a few posts but really not a lot
    What's wrong this statement? Umm, everything. Not trying to be a dick man, but you have no idea how badly I want to start my first cycle...I have been contemplating this for close to two years now; and I still can't push the button. There are a couple of things that have prevented me from starting one but most importantly I strongly feel that right now, I can hit my goals without a PH. I have learned so many things within the past year and a half that it's just mind-boggling. I have created a structure towards my diet and training that have aided me in ways that I thought would never be possible. There have been many things said on this board by a lot veterans and at first I just kind of shrugged it off and didn't get it. Now, it's a completely different story, I TOTALLY GET IT! Like I said, I've been dwelling on starting a cycle for the longest time and still to this day I want to, but still haven't. Why? Like I said, I want to be able to fully take my body to it's highest potential naturally, and I feel like I haven't done that yet; and when I say naturally, I mean without the use of PHs and DS. I only use certain supps nowadays and all of them are practically staples. Believe me when I say that knowledge is power. I started getting into working out and training when I was 16, I'm 23 now. Had I known what I know now back then, oh man, life would be very different to say the least. But that's what the journey's all about man.

    I'm getting off topic, but honestly, from all the countless logs and research I have read, I have never encountered someone stating P-Mag to be similar to SD/M-Drol nor even close to, no one. Heck, one is a test derivative the other is a DTH derivative. But hey, don't listen to me I haven't even ran one cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F355

    What's wrong this statement? Umm, everything. Not trying to be a dick man, but you have no idea how badly I want to start my first cycle...I have been contemplating this for close to two years now; and I still can't push the button. There are a couple of things that have prevented me from starting one but most importantly I strongly feel that right now, I can hit my goals without a PH. I have learned so many things within the past year and a half that it's just mind-boggling. I have created a structure towards my diet and training that have aided me in ways that I thought would never be possible. There have been many things said on this board by a lot veterans and at first I just kind of shrugged it off and didn't get it. Now, it's a completely different story, I TOTALLY GET IT! Like I said, I've been dwelling on starting a cycle for the longest time and still to this day I want to, but still haven't. Why? Like I said, I want to be able to fully take my body to it's highest potential naturally, and I feel like I haven't done that yet; and when I say naturally, I mean without the use of PHs and DS. I only use certain supps nowadays and all of them are practically staples. Believe me when I say that knowledge is power. I started getting into working out and training when I was 16, I'm 23 now. Had I known what I know now back then, oh man, life would be very different to say the least. But that's what the journey's all about man.

    I'm getting off topic, but honestly, from all the countless logs and research I have read, I have never encountered someone stating P-Mag to be similar to SD/M-Drol nor even close to, no one. Heck, one is a test derivative the other is a DTH derivative. But hey, don't listen to me I haven't even ran one cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F355 View Post
    I'm getting off topic, but honestly, from all the countless logs and research I have read, I have never encountered someone stating P-Mag to be similar to SD/M-Drol nor even close to, no one. Heck, one is a test derivative the other is a DTH derivative. But hey, don't listen to me I haven't even ran one cycle.
    i have done tons of research..when i first came to this forum i had already ordered sum gear and was asking around n i was quickly put in place.(pure luck that i had actually found a reliable website and actually recieved the gear.ened up selling it) all i had was 2000 mg of deca n i thought i was ready to go..but i have learned a lot and i think im ready to take this step..like i said im still in the planning process not jumping the gun..

    p-mag 4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
    h-drol 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4- diene-3-17b-diol
    ^^are yu telling me those compunds arent similar???
    bigwhiteguy seems to agree with me and hes got way more rep power than yu do
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    i have done tons of research..when i first came to this forum i had already ordered sum gear and was asking around n i was quickly put in place.(pure luck that i had actually found a reliable website and actually recieved the gear.ened up selling it) all i had was 2000 mg of deca n i thought i was ready to go..but i have learned a lot and i think im ready to take this step..like i said im still in the planning process not jumping the gun..

    p-mag 4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
    h-drol 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4- diene-3-17b-diol
    ^^are yu telling me those compunds arent similar???
    bigwhiteguy seems to agree with me and hes got way more rep power than yu do
    He was stating that superdrol was not similar to halodrol. That is a true statement. I am not sure who was comparing superdrol to halodrol though I was comparing h-drol to p-mag.

    EDIT: I see you compared superdol to halodrol in your post that he quoted. Perhaps you meant to put h-drol and not m-drol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    p-mag 4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
    h-drol 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4- diene-3-17b-diol
    ^^are yu telling me those compunds arent similar???
    bigwhiteguy seems to agree with me and hes got way more rep power than yu do
    yea, they are very similar. one is a derivative of 4-androstenediol, the other is a derivative of 1,4 androstenediol.
    but you compared pmag to mdrol, mdrol is di methylated dht, a completely different compound, and only way the two are similar is that neither aromatizes, (well, they're both methylated too)
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    alright my bad im serious when i say i meant to say h-drol all the way in the original post..now i get why everyone was giving me ****.. h-drol is a halodrol clone m-drol is a superdrol clone..you obviously know more about the chem thn i do but i know they are different and i meant to compare p-mag to h-drol..thanx for the neg rep power
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    alright my bad im serious when i say i meant to say h-drol all the way in the original post..now i get why everyone was giving me ****.. h-drol is a halodrol clone m-drol is a superdrol clone..you obviously know more about the chem thn i do but i know they are different and i meant to compare p-mag to h-drol..thanx for the neg rep power
    well, i would of put you back in the green, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123
    Fcuk yourself =D
    good to see you taking it so well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    yea, they are very similar. one is a derivative of 4-androstenediol, the other is a derivative of 1,4 androstenediol.
    but you compared pmag to mdrol, mdrol is di methylated dht, a completely different compound, and only way the two are similar is that neither aromatizes, (well, they're both methylated too)
    which actually brings me to a question..if p-mag does not aromatize why is an AI necessary
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    well, i would of put you back in the green, but...

    good to see you taking it so well!
    I neg'd him for ya too JB for the disrespect....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    well, i would of put you back in the green, but...



    good to see you taking it so well!

    lmao i dont give a damn about rep power
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    I neg'd him for ya too JB for the disrespect....
    get up off ya knees brotha
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    and i said F*** with the little starrs
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123

    get up off ya knees brotha


    I'm have too your mom can't take it doggy anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    lmao i dont give a damn about rep power
    this statement suggest otherwise....

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    bigwhiteguy seems to agree with me and hes got way more rep power than yu do
    anyways, you dont need an ai with pmag. i have no idea why anyone who knows anything would recomend so, unless they dont really know anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    get up off ya knees brotha
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    I'm have too your mom can't take it doggy anymore
    whoa whoa whoa guys, lets take it easy, no reason to get but hurt, according to dr phil, cyber bullying can really do some damage, so lets all get along!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    serm, ai, pct assist will be perfect.

    serm for 4 weeks.

    ai starting week 3 of serm.

    pct assist 4 weeks of the serm.
    hmmmm guess ya dont know as much as yu think
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b

    whoa whoa whoa guys, lets take it easy, no reason to get but hurt, according to dr phil, cyber bullying can really do some damage, so lets all get along!
    I see how it is JB
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    this statement suggest otherwise....



    anyways, you dont need an ai with pmag. i have no idea why anyone who knows anything would recomend so, unless they dont really know anything.
    jeez yu guys take things so literally around here i meant i dont give a damn about MY power points
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