Help me put together my Katanadrol cycle!

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So trying to get stuff ready for a cutting/recomp cycle this January/march ish. Here's my thoughts.....

Katanadrol V2.0: Week 1-6: 250/300/300/300/350/350
Need2Slin:
Formastanzol: Week 4-8 or longer: 10 pumps ED
Cycle assist
Fish Oil
Mutli

PCT: still trying to figur out best course for this input really needed.
Possibly nolva: 20/10/10/10
DAA
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bump, hoping to get some kind of input here.
 

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So trying to get stuff ready for a cutting/recomp cycle this January/march ish. Here's my thoughts.....

Katanadrol V2.0: Week 1-6: 250/300/300/300/350/350 ---this dosing is solid, use it
Need2Slin: 3-6 caps a day. 20min before carbs meals
Formastanzol: Week 4-8 or longer: 10 pumps ED if your going to use it on cycle, limit yourself to 6pumps ED total, 3/3 am/pm
Cycle assist 6-8 caps taken at night, the liver supports interfere with PH's, take CA pre bed
Fish Oil 5-10 caps ED, taken with katan. it helps the PH absorb better. also helps BP, cholesterol, etc
Mutli take 1-3 ED

PCT: still trying to figur out best course for this input really needed.
Possibly nolva: 20/10/10/10
DAA
?????
The forma stanzol is typically used on cycle when running a wet compound. Katan is dry, the forma may dry you up too much so thats why i would limit myself to 6 pumps total ED. In pct use 10 pumps.

PCT

nolva
20/20/10/10
DAA
3g's ED
Forma stanzol
00/8/10/10/8/8/6/6



I like being on a AI when coming off a serm. It helps bring down serum estrogen and prevents any post cycle rebound (gyno) that could occur. I would also use come creatine during the cycle and PCT. While on cycle your body is in a hyper growth mode lets say, protein synthesis, fat burning, metabolism are all up, your body can use more creatine so give it to it.
 
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The forma stanzol is typically used on cycle when running a wet compound. Katan is dry, the forma may dry you up too much so thats why i would limit myself to 6 pumps total ED. In pct use 10 pumps.

PCT

nolva
20/20/10/10
DAA
3g's ED
Forma stanzol
00/8/10/10/8/8/6/6



I like being on a AI when coming off a serm. It helps bring down serum estrogen and prevents any post cycle rebound (gyno) that could occur. I would also use come creatine during the cycle and PCT. While on cycle your body is in a hyper growth mode lets say, protein synthesis, fat burning, metabolism are all up, your body can use more creatine so give it to it.
Thanks that helps me a ton, Never used forma before, do I need to alternate application sites and once dried can I wipe clean? Little confused on your outline for the forma though did you mean run it 0/0/8/10/10/8/8/6/6 beginning on day one of PCT? Also if used during cycle and post is this too long of a run?? If so I can just go with PCT only.
 

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yes, im saying dont use it for the 1st 2wks of pct. than 8 pumps total ED, than 10, 10, 8,6,6,6. Basically taper up, taper down.
 
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yes, im saying dont use it for the 1st 2wks of pct. than 8 pumps total ED, than 10, 10, 8,6,6,6. Basically taper up, taper down.
cool thx. so then I should use it only in PCT? What about wiping clean after it dries?
 
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cool thx. so then I should use it only in PCT? What about wiping clean after it dries?
Solid advice from gymrat as always!

Yeah man just use it in PCT. do NOT wipe the area clean after it dries. Just rub it in and leave it at that.
 
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I agree with gymrat as well here. Solid advice! ;)
 
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IMO a SERM is overkill and my reasoning is: why would you put a harsher compound into your body for pct than you did for your cycle? You'll do fine with a good AI pct, and probably be healthier for doing so. Shutdown won't be very harsh from prostanzolol.
 
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IMO a SERM is overkill and my reasoning is: why would you put a harsher compound into your body for pct than you did for your cycle? You'll do fine with a good AI pct, and probably be healthier for doing so. Shutdown won't be very harsh from prostanzolol.

nolva @ 20/10/10/10 is very low. He wont get any sides from it and it will jump start HPTA like no other sh!t would. He should use it.

He could stop after 2wks but serm/t booster/AI is the triple threat pct. its as good as it gets....
 
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Thanks for the info, question I know Katana says not to run longer than 6weeks but what are your thoughts on running it for 8 weeks? Also since a dead even split on dosing isn't possible should I bulk up a dose at a certain time or should I just make it evenly spaced out with more pills?
 
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Thanks for the info, question I know Katana says not to run longer than 6weeks but what are your thoughts on running it for 8 weeks? Also since a dead even split on dosing isn't possible should I bulk up a dose at a certain time or should I just make it evenly spaced out with more pills?
8 weeks for Katana is fine, and its been done many times. For the dosing, you can split it up however its convenient for you...it really won't make a difference
 
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8 weeks for Katana is fine, and its been done many times. For the dosing, you can split it up however its convenient for you...it really won't make a difference
1. thanks for the advice, on a similar note what about dosing for a 24hr. period, should I dose for my waking hours or for a 24 hr. period? IE: wake at 7am dose 100mg, 1pm 100mg, and 8pm 100mg. Or should I do the 24hr. like... 7am 100mg, 3pm 100mg, 10pm right before sleep 100mg? I don't want it effecting my sleep so...


2. Thinking about running Clenvicerate with this stack, thoughts on any issues? Since from my understanding it's not systemic I shouldn't need to worry right? THinking about running 0/0/40/60/60/80/0/0 for my eight week Katana run.
 
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1. thanks for the advice, on a similar note what about dosing for a 24hr. period, should I dose for my waking hours or for a 24 hr. period? IE: wake at 7am dose 100mg, 1pm 100mg, and 8pm 100mg. Or should I do the 24hr. like... 7am 100mg, 3pm 100mg, 10pm right before sleep 100mg? I don't want it effecting my sleep so...


2. Thinking about running Clenvicerate with this stack, thoughts on any issues? Since from my understanding it's not systemic I shouldn't need to worry right? THinking about running 0/0/40/60/60/80/0/0 for my eight week Katana run.

I would honestly just dose a couple times a day, splitting it up. For example, if you are running at 300mg, just dose 150mg twice per day at 8 hours apart. One dose in the AM, and one in the afternoon...
 

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I would honestly just dose a couple times a day, splitting it up. For example, if you are running at 300mg, just dose 150mg twice per day at 8 hours apart. One dose in the AM, and one in the afternoon...

this. katan half life is 4hr, and dosing them late at night *could* keep you up all night.
 
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thanks, any thoughts on clenvicerate on cycle?
 

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clen, yea you can use it but watch out if you dose it too high. 2wks on, 2wks off. or use some keto
 
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thanks, any thoughts on clenvicerate on cycle?
Yeah man just apply it to your problem areas....you can use it with the smolder version of eviscerate that's out

and like gymrat said two weeks on two weeks off
 
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thanks any difference between original evis and smolder?
 
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quick question, I have some Erase I want to use up, probably like 2 weeks worth @ 3 daps ED, Since I've never run Forma I'm not sure which is better and how I would add the erase in?
 

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forma would be a better AI but erase is still good and blocks cortisol. How will you be using it? on cycle or pct??

for ON cycle use 2 caps ED is all you need, well unless you have some gyno you need to control.
 
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I can use the erase either way. Forma is PCT strictly, no pre-existing gyno to worry about. Also anyone have input on clenviserate? I'm torn on if I should use it, on one hand I have read good things on the other I've read it is basically useless, thoughts?
 

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I can use the erase either way. Forma is PCT strictly, no pre-existing gyno to worry about. Also anyone have input on clenviserate? I'm torn on if I should use it, on one hand I have read good things on the other I've read it is basically useless, thoughts?
You can use Forma stanzol just like you can use erase. On or Off cycle. a stack or stand alone, pct. anytime
 
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So finishing my last week on a 6 week run of katana, can say I have kept size which is a plus but strength has been slowly dropping each week which I was pretty disapointed about. I'm used to that though since it seems every cut results this way. Still have about 8lbs. to drop to be at % I want to maintain. I can say even dosing at 400 for the last week I have no shut down what so ever. Any ideas on how to run my nolva are appreciated otherwise I'll stick with gymrats advice and run it 20/20/10/10
 
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Death, how much weight did you drop with katana? I have 4 bottles that I havent touched yet, so im curious of your results.
 
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Death, how much weight did you drop with katana? I have 4 bottles that I havent touched yet, so im curious of your results.
can't say I lost a ton of weight in six week run of it, I dropped about 9lbs. with fairly strict diet. That being said I can say the mirror change was the biggest indicator. I kept alot of my size and cut up for sure. btw I'm shooting for rickrock's status, I can just never get to that BF and hold it for some reason.
 
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can't say I lost a ton of weight in six week run of it, I dropped about 9lbs. with fairly strict diet. That being said I can say the mirror change was the biggest indicator. I kept alot of my size and cut up for sure. btw I'm shooting for rickrock's status, I can just never get to that BF and hold it for some reason.
I think we all have a set point that our bodies like to try to revert back to - aka homeostasis. I think it's possible to change this however it just takes time, hard work, and dedication.
 
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can't say I lost a ton of weight in six week run of it, I dropped about 9lbs. with fairly strict diet. That being said I can say the mirror change was the biggest indicator. I kept alot of my size and cut up for sure. btw I'm shooting for rickrock's status, I can just never get to that BF and hold it for some reason.
I appreciate the compliment brother! You can get there and hold it as long as you keep focused on the goal. I doubted myself for so long about being able to be ripped until I found the methods that best worked for me. Now I've been able to stay in single digits even through a winter bulk so I can't complain. Finding what works for YOU is the key ;)
 
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I appreciate the compliment brother! You can get there and hold it as long as you keep focused on the goal. I doubted myself for so long about being able to be ripped until I found the methods that best worked for me. Now I've been able to stay in single digits even through a winter bulk so I can't complain. Finding what works for YOU is the key ;)
thanks man, I will keep at it.
 
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I appreciate the compliment brother! You can get there and hold it as long as you keep focused on the goal. I doubted myself for so long about being able to be ripped until I found the methods that best worked for me. Now I've been able to stay in single digits even through a winter bulk so I can't complain. Finding what works for YOU is the key ;)
thanks man, I will keep at it.
 

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