First cycle startin with Helladrol advice please
- 11-07-2011, 08:33 PM
First cycle startin with Helladrol advice please
So I just picked up some helladrol on the bogo sale they were having and just wanted to see if my cycle looks alright.
Hella six weeks @ 50/50/75/75/75/75. What do you guys think about the dosage?
Cycle support is going to be N2Guard (should I add anything else besides a multi and fish oil?)
PCT will consist of a SERM (still undecided about which is best) What do you guys think? I was leaning towards Nolva and also some DAA at 3 grams a day and then ive been thinking about HCGenerate at 5 caps a day and lastly FormaStanol 5 pumps in the morning and before bed.
- 11-07-2011, 08:52 PM
Height, weight, age, and goals?
- 11-07-2011, 09:03 PM
11-07-2011, 09:16 PM
Im getting ready to start my first ph cycle with helladrol... Heres what I have set up... (this is months of research and a lot of information from some very experienced people)
1 week preload of cycle assist by CEL
Cycle assist throughout
Taurine if needed
lean xtreme (for cortisol)
pre workout - assault or gamma labs
I am starting mine in two weeks... good luck with yours bro... i hear some really good things about it as long as you follow instructions and don't get out of line with your dosage and everything... you know your body better than anyone else... see how it reacts and then go from there... you dont need the forma with the daa btw... nolva and daa is enough... good luck
11-07-2011, 09:18 PM
stats are as follows: 27 yrs old, 5'11" 190 lbs and want to gain some strength and put on some good clean mass.
11-07-2011, 09:20 PM
I have lifted since I was in High school and took a few months off here of there but have really got my routine back to normal and kept it on point
11-07-2011, 09:21 PM
11-07-2011, 09:24 PM
My personal run of helladrol was as follows:
liver juice 10ml day
hawthorne berry 1g day
sustain alpha 10ml day
daa 3g day
endoamp max 1/day
11-07-2011, 10:21 PM
How long do I run erase and what dosage?
11-07-2011, 10:24 PM
You can use any AI, erase is just cheap and effective. I used 3/2/2/1 weeks 3,4,5,6 of the pctz. Don't start until week 3 of your PCT
11-07-2011, 11:53 PM
okay cool thanks... ill definitely look into that... you have any experience with SARMS at all??
11-08-2011, 05:52 AM
It can affect your sight, no way am I touching SARMs anytime soon
11-08-2011, 06:57 AM
Just stick with a SERM. And the AI and test booster like Jamie recommended.
11-08-2011, 09:51 AM
11-08-2011, 11:02 AM
11-08-2011, 11:03 AM
cool yeah im not going to mess with them either
11-08-2011, 11:33 AM
Anything you guys think I should add or critique about my upcoming cycle? And lastly when I up my hella dose to 75mg when should I take the 3rd dose?
11-08-2011, 11:49 AM
third dose as in 25mg 3 times a day? spacing the dosage?
not necessary, usually 50mg pre workout like 1-2 hours, and then the other dosage in the morning or afternoon (whenever your other dose isn't') take liver support at night, it can interfere with absorption of hdrol
11-08-2011, 12:56 PM
Yeah I just didn't know if I should take each 25 mg dose at am, lunch and pm. Is it better to take a dose in the am and before workout ?
11-08-2011, 02:52 PM
You could do 6 weeks as follows:Originally Posted by nsanegymfreak
DAA 3g daily
4 weeks would be just fine as well but adding in erase is good for helping while coming off the nolva.
11-08-2011, 03:26 PM
11-08-2011, 03:38 PM
11-08-2011, 05:47 PM
IMO I would skip the HCGenerate it's just a fancy test booster and it is pricey. DAA is cheaper and effective. No need for two test boosters. Since it's your first cycle just keep it simple and see how your body reacts while on cycle and during PCT. Good luck to you bro.Originally Posted by nsanegymfreak
11-08-2011, 05:54 PM
11-08-2011, 06:07 PM
Ok so I will keep it simple and see how this sounds
6 weeks for Hella @ 50/50/75/75/75/75
Erase starting in week 3 @ 3/3/2/1
Should I add anything else?????
11-08-2011, 06:08 PM
Do I need to preload with N2Guard at all or is it unnecessary?
11-08-2011, 06:17 PM
it's kinda expensive to preload n2guard. go buy hawthorne berry and milk thistle and just dose them at like 1g day for 2 weeks leading up
11-08-2011, 06:19 PM
ok sounds good everything else sound legit?
11-08-2011, 06:23 PM
Everything sounds great bro. Just preload like James said and be sure to run a cycle assist or something similar during PCT just like you will on cycle.
11-08-2011, 06:29 PM
so should I just get a double dosage of Cycle Assist by CEL and ditch the N2Guard?
11-08-2011, 06:52 PM
You can choose either one. Both do the same thing. Just choose one and run it on cycle and post cycle as per directions on the container.Originally Posted by nsanegymfreak
11-08-2011, 07:07 PM
Sounds good, after looking at them both I think I might run the CEL Cycle Assist since its half the price of N2Guard and just get to bottles so I can preload 2 weeks ahead.
11-08-2011, 07:51 PM
Good choice.Originally Posted by nsanegymfreak
11-08-2011, 08:23 PM
11-08-2011, 11:43 PM
11-09-2011, 12:12 AM
Research. You obviously have a lot to do.
They're completely different.
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