Users of Superdrol: Have you kept your gains?

[ReyMan]

i've ran many cycles of sd, most gains were between those numbers

So pretty much, you've gained like 80lbs just from SuperDrol...

[phatmike0704]

So pretty much, you've gained like 80lbs just from SuperDrol...

ya all at once

[ReyMan]

ya all at once

Lolololol, but in total that's around how much you've gained?

[phatmike0704]

Lolololol, but in total that's around how much you've gained?

lol ya brah, didnt u read the labels? explosive beastly gains. lemme add real quick, i think i've done 4 or 5 solo runs so it could probably add up to that. SD is the beez kneez, never had to go passed 20mg cuz it adds lbs like crazy but i think thats why my joints are dry. i never used wet compounds

[swollen87]

yup and hurt like a bitch. ur right, i didnt and my diet wasnt on target. but im off ph's for awhile cuz shoulders started hurting during summer and again a couple weeks ago so keepin it light weight

you have no idea what youre doing...

"keepin it light weight" isnt how you lift

if your shoulder hurts, chances are you are benching like a focktard, or you may have injured yourself somehow

TBH i think you are just soft-as-charmin... stay away from steroids and learn a little bit

[lilguy1020]

you have no idea what youre doing...

"keepin it light weight" isnt how you lift

if your shoulder hurts, chances are you are benching like a focktard, or you may have injured yourself somehow

TBH i think you are just soft-as-charmin... stay away from steroids and learn a little bit

Lmfao

[soontobbeast]

you have no idea what youre doing...

"keepin it light weight" isnt how you lift

if your shoulder hurts, chances are you are benching like a focktard, or you may have injured yourself somehow

TBH i think you are just soft-as-charmin... stay away from steroids and learn a little bit

lol that's swollen keepin it real

[swollen87]

lol that's swollen keepin it real

lol i always do....

[bigdavid]

you have no idea what youre doing...

"keepin it light weight" isnt how you lift

if your shoulder hurts, chances are you are benching like a focktard, or you may have injured yourself somehow

TBH i think you are just soft-as-charmin... stay away from steroids and learn a little bit

lol @ this and your sig

[ReyMan]

you have no idea what youre doing...

"keepin it light weight" isnt how you lift

if your shoulder hurts, chances are you are benching like a focktard, or you may have injured yourself somehow

TBH i think you are just soft-as-charmin... stay away from steroids and learn a little bit

You ripped him a new one.

[phatmike0704]

thanks for the advice swollen lol

[UGHQTempus]

I've run a few SD pulses and I've kept my gains.

However, I have about 9 months off between pulses and I lift the same while off or on. Most of the guys that I know who gain big and lose big aren't all the large to start with and have piss poor form.

[Dr.Stri8ed]

I've ran SD twice and kept my gains. Coming off a cycle u really have to eat to maintain the weight you've gained. Also, I don't try and train like I did when I was ON cuz that would definitely b overtraining.

[GMG760]

lol ya brah, didnt u read the labels? explosive beastly gains. lemme add real quick, i think i've done 4 or 5 solo runs so it could probably add up to that. SD is the beez kneez, never had to go passed 20mg cuz it adds lbs like crazy but i think thats why my joints are dry. i never used wet compounds

You're a good example of why oral only cycles are usually for the undereducated and ill-prepared "bodybuilder"... And I use the term bodybuilder generously in this case. If I was 5'4" I would hope to be at least 190ish after that many cycles of ANYTHING hormonal. SD is not the bees knees, it's honestly poison for most people, because no gains can honestly be kept after only 3 weeks. You're gonna lose most of it without test or another hormone ran for a long period of time. You don't really see anyone running anadrol only cycles now do you? There is a reason for this.

[Flabby]

In response to the OP... I'm fairly certain that androcycle.com is a front website for LG Science brand supplements, who market their M1D as a legal alternative to gray market orals. So take what they say with a grain of salt.

[GMG760]

In response to the OP... I'm fairly certain that androcycle.com is a front website for LG Science brand supplements, who market their M1D as a legal alternative to gray market orals. So take what they say with a grain of salt.

Yea... I don't think the LG guys are hiding that androcycle.com is a LG website. I used to rep for LG, they are good people, but yes, there is an incredibly strong agenda behind that site. And no, 5a reduced DHEA isn't going to get you huge.

As far as quality information goes, it is spread throughout the boards mostly found by wading through pages and pages of broscience and general bullsh*t. You will get the best information from experienced users, chemists, and pharmacists. Most of the time you can learn a lot by reading the "stickies" on the forums. Otherwise it's usually slanted info at best and complete horsepucky at worst. People are going to buy into what they want to buy into, but a simple few facts are this: 1. Muscle can not be put on quickly, even with the use of steroids. It can be achieved quicker with steroids, but it takes at least 2, and probably closer to 4 months of hormonal manipulation to put on any decent amount of maintainable mass. The rest is glycogen/water. 2. You will not grow without a surplus of calories. Calories in must be larger than calories going out to grow, and vice versa for losing weight. Steroids or not, if you burn more calories than you eat, you are not gonna grow. 3. Very few oral steroids can be ran for a long enough period by themselves to get serious gains, and I know this from experience. The only cycles that I have considered worthwhile in the long run out of quite a few PH/DS runs, were all 8 weeks. One was Hdrol/ProDien, the other was Hdrol/OristanA . The first a bulk, the second a cut. The rest I could have done without, and probably should have. Hindsight is 20/20, so like me many of us have ran a bunch of DS/PH junk before we got the balls to inject, and quickly realized we had been f*cking ourselves over for years. I would be probably 230-240 lbs had I ran 4 cycles of injectable gear rather than 4 cycles of legal PH/DS... and my organs would probably be a lot better off. I am in the middle of my third week of Sustanon 300 with a Tbol (40mg ed) kicker and I have never been so strong, felt so good, had a libido like this, or made such amazing esthetic changes to my body before. 8 weeks of Hdrol and ProDienalone (Xtreme Tren) has nothing on my cycle already... and I have 11 1/2 weeks left. Ironically, Steroids are in the long run much cheaper than ProHormones and DS these days, and probably just as easy to get ahold of. Take it with a grain of salt, but if you listen to me, I promise that you will come back to thank me in the future. You're welcome in advance. /rant

[gaijininjapan]

on my last 2 SD cycles... gained about 15lbs eating relatively clean, kept about 12 in PCT... kept roughly same weight through the "off" period, and during my cut, lost most of it. I'd say that I lost about 50% fat, and 50% SD gains during the cut. I just did a pulse w/ SD and gained about 8lbs on a 7wk pulse after PCT. I definitely agree that the longer you run something, the more stable your gains will be. Aslo, running a DS is damn expensive w/ all the ancilliaries you need to take. PCT is the same as a pinned cycle, but support supps are pricey!!

Properly done, I'd say that you could keep about 50% of your gains.

However, I kept most of the strength I got while on. which is a good thing.

[Marcinator]

Yea... I don't think the LG guys are hiding that androcycle.com is a LG website. I used to rep for LG, they are good people, but yes, there is an incredibly strong agenda behind that site. And no, 5a reduced DHEA isn't going to get you huge.

As far as quality information goes, it is spread throughout the boards mostly found by wading through pages and pages of broscience and general bullsh*t. You will get the best information from experienced users, chemists, and pharmacists. Most of the time you can learn a lot by reading the "stickies" on the forums. Otherwise it's usually slanted info at best and complete horsepucky at worst. People are going to buy into what they want to buy into, but a simple few facts are this: 1. Muscle can not be put on quickly, even with the use of steroids. It can be achieved quicker with steroids, but it takes at least 2, and probably closer to 4 months of hormonal manipulation to put on any decent amount of maintainable mass. The rest is glycogen/water. 2. You will not grow without a surplus of calories. Calories in must be larger than calories going out to grow, and vice versa for losing weight. Steroids or not, if you burn more calories than you eat, you are not gonna grow. 3. Very few oral steroids can be ran for a long enough period by themselves to get serious gains, and I know this from experience. The only cycles that I have considered worthwhile in the long run out of quite a few PH/DS runs, were all 8 weeks. One was Hdrol/ProDien, the other was Hdrol/OristanA . The first a bulk, the second a cut. The rest I could have done without, and probably should have. Hindsight is 20/20, so like me many of us have ran a bunch of DS/PH junk before we got the balls to inject, and quickly realized we had been f*cking ourselves over for years. I would be probably 230-240 lbs had I ran 4 cycles of injectable gear rather than 4 cycles of legal PH/DS... and my organs would probably be a lot better off. I am in the middle of my third week of Sustanon 300 with a Tbol (40mg ed) kicker and I have never been so strong, felt so good, had a libido like this, or made such amazing esthetic changes to my body before. 8 weeks of Hdrol and ProDienalone (Xtreme Tren) has nothing on my cycle already... and I have 11 1/2 weeks left. Ironically, Steroids are in the long run much cheaper than ProHormones and DS these days, and probably just as easy to get ahold of. Take it with a grain of salt, but if you listen to me, I promise that you will come back to thank me in the future. You're welcome in advance. /rant

Just had to say - very well put bro... almost wish your rant could become a sticky. You pretty much hit the ball out of the park with your direct, no B.S. analysis. Anyone considering any type of PH run should read this first.

[middleageguy]

Yea... I don't think the LG guys are hiding that androcycle.com is a LG website. I used to rep for LG, they are good people, but yes, there is an incredibly strong agenda behind that site. And no, 5a reduced DHEA isn't going to get you huge.

As far as quality information goes, it is spread throughout the boards mostly found by wading through pages and pages of broscience and general bullsh*t. You will get the best information from experienced users, chemists, and pharmacists. Most of the time you can learn a lot by reading the "stickies" on the forums. Otherwise it's usually slanted info at best and complete horsepucky at worst. People are going to buy into what they want to buy into, but a simple few facts are this: 1. Muscle can not be put on quickly, even with the use of steroids. It can be achieved quicker with steroids, but it takes at least 2, and probably closer to 4 months of hormonal manipulation to put on any decent amount of maintainable mass. The rest is glycogen/water. 2. You will not grow without a surplus of calories. Calories in must be larger than calories going out to grow, and vice versa for losing weight. Steroids or not, if you burn more calories than you eat, you are not gonna grow. 3. Very few oral steroids can be ran for a long enough period by themselves to get serious gains, and I know this from experience. The only cycles that I have considered worthwhile in the long run out of quite a few PH/DS runs, were all 8 weeks. One was Hdrol/ProDien, the other was Hdrol/OristanA . The first a bulk, the second a cut. The rest I could have done without, and probably should have. Hindsight is 20/20, so like me many of us have ran a bunch of DS/PH junk before we got the balls to inject, and quickly realized we had been f*cking ourselves over for years. I would be probably 230-240 lbs had I ran 4 cycles of injectable gear rather than 4 cycles of legal PH/DS... and my organs would probably be a lot better off. I am in the middle of my third week of Sustanon 300 with a Tbol (40mg ed) kicker and I have never been so strong, felt so good, had a libido like this, or made such amazing esthetic changes to my body before. 8 weeks of Hdrol and ProDienalone (Xtreme Tren) has nothing on my cycle already... and I have 11 1/2 weeks left. Ironically, Steroids are in the long run much cheaper than ProHormones and DS these days, and probably just as easy to get ahold of. Take it with a grain of salt, but if you listen to me, I promise that you will come back to thank me in the future. You're welcome in advance. /rant

Sadly, I am coming to believe the above is true from my experience, observations and monitoring my cycles.

About the “glycogen/water” I have observed this and I even purchased an electric Body-Fat/Muscle-Mass Scale to monitor what was going on.
It would be quite frustrating to put on 10 to 15 lbs during a cycle and end up after the first 2 weeks of PCT around the same weight. I would think what the crap I am doing wrong.

Using the electric Body-Fat/Muscle-Mass Scale my last pulse(30mg SD EOD) I observed that during the first 2 weeks I put on 11 pounds!!! (I did not look any fatter, I looked pumped!!!)
Of this it stated: 5 lbs increase in BF, 4 lbs increase in water, 2 lbs increase in muscle mass.

I totally believe this was all the “rapid uptake of water and glycogen into your muscles” confusing the crap out of the electric Body-Fat/Muscle-Mass Scale.

But I can say after all was completed my body physique would improve quite dramatically. Then again I was not in as great of shape as many of the board members are in when I started.

Since I have a stock on hand of SD and other PH/DS I have been considering a very low dosage combination and extending a pulse cycle out to 10 to 12 weeks.
I am only considering this experimentation because I already purchased the SD and other PH/DS.

All in all, I can also say the SD has helped quite a bit. Just not the pipe dreams that I had reading about it.

The bottom line is I am coming to the realization what board member “GMG760” is posting is sadly true.

[Dr.Stri8ed]

Middleageguy your totally right I experienced the same thing with SD. When I would gain 20 pounds and after my pct I realized I only gained about 8 pounds of muscle mass. Everything else is just glycogen/water. What I am also going to do is run a low dose of SD(10 mg) a day for 8 weeks.