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  1. 17a, 13b-diethly dienolone (basically orally active, more potent trenazone)

    You liked the tren ph's? Like trenazone? Well,
    Anataeus (sp) has said they could bring it to the market for us to get huge gains, but, only if there is enough interest


  2. Sign me up...
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  3. I'm im

  4. Not interested. More interest in non-hormonal type products.

  5. sounds nice but how does this differ from the old pro-dienolone? wait... is this just methylated dienolone???

    hmmm... what will be the effects in comparison to methyl trenbolone??? any suggested dosing range? will this be a mcg doser as well???


    interesting.... I want more info.. got any bro?
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  6. im in

  7. ZERO LIBIDO

  8. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Not interested. More interest in non-hormonal type products
    from antaeus???

    Not too likely given their current trend...

    its nice to have some companies dedicating themselves to hormonal compounds, plenty out there that are all non hormonal companies.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    from antaeus???

    Not too likely given their current trend...

    its nice to have some companies dedicating themselves to hormonal compounds, plenty out there that are all non hormonal companies.


    Really?. Read post #6.

  10. Better question, if you want non-hormonal products then why are you in the hormonal product section?

  11. Id be GAME
    -It's not about what you're doing, it's about how you're doing it.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Really?. Read post #6.
    yes ive seen that... tudca is in relation to the hormone game, namely methyls as you know...

    I forgot he mentioned the other ONE product.

    I still like the fact that they are willing to pioneer some new hormone compounds for us as their main focus


    So are you off the wagon or on again??? i remember you forever talking bad about cycling(namely methyls) cause of your experience, and dont blame you, then saw you posting in many threads recently inquiring about new hormones... are you planning on cycling again soon???
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone
    Not interested. More interest in non-hormonal type products.
    Check out our line of products, loud of non hormonal performance enhancing sups from sns.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough
    sounds nice but how does this differ from the old pro-dienolone? wait... is this just methylated dienolone???

    hmmm... what will be the effects in comparison to methyl trenbolone??? any suggested dosing range? will this be a mcg doser as well???

    interesting.... I want more info.. got any bro?
    Yes i got more, I'm at work now, if brymaster doesn't pop in with more info I'll do out when I get home.
    If you google the nomenclature and bryan101b patrick arnold, you should get some his with info as well.

  15. im guessing from the "other board"... sounds good though ill give it a search.
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  16. In for some more info

  17. meh not finding anything but a methyl clostebol thread from ND... is this what your talkin bout??? tons of info in there that i like to see though!
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  18. If the price was right
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  19. crap, i think we might of been talking about di ethylated norbolethone "delta 9 norbolethone'.

    im not sure, let me search.

    but, off the top of my head, ethylation is a form of alkylation, like methylation. both are forms of alkylation.

    a 17a,13b di ethyl dienolone would allow for oral activity, but possibly less hepatotoxicity than di methylated dienolone.

    it would also most likely bind/interact very strongly with the androgen receptor. but, it would also bind/interact strongly with the progestin receptor.
    winstrol, or pstanz would def be a compound to stack with it.

    wife just got home, so gotta go eat. date night.

    if someone could pm brymaster an ask him to get in here and help me out, i'd appreciate it.

  20. delta-9-norbolethone is the same as diethyldienolone
    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    crap, i think we might of been talking about di ethylated norbolethone "delta 9 norbolethone'.

    I apologize if this is too technical for some, but here goes:


    the compound in question, "diethyldienolone"(if you want to be a little more specific we could call it 18-methyl-17a-ethyl-dienolone), is roughly twice as anabolic as norbolethone by the same administration method(subcutaneous injection) using the same standard which is 17a-ethyl-nortestosterone. diethyldienolone's anabolic:androgenic ratio by this form of administration is 1450 : 860.

    you can look at the specifics of the assay in here if anyone has access:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/5334628

    i do not know how active diethyldienolone will be orally(note that the above^ is by injection), but i would postulate that the extension of the 13b-methyl group to the 13b-ethyl will create steric hindrance during metabolism, and make it more bioavailable(thus more orally active). also the 17a-ethyl should do the same to prevent 17b-hydroxyl oxidation.


    it likely won't take a whole lot to make you guys big and strong, but that doesn't mean we should put it in 2mg caps and sell it. alpha/beta testing should determine how much we'll need, if this is released by antaeus in the future.
    Antaeus Rep

  21. I'm in for this.

    can't wait to run a UD log ... currently funds are tight
    RecoverBro ELITE

  22. isnt M-LMG 13b ethyl??? should be plenty available if thats could be considered a viable comparison.... Also doesnt necessarily mean its completely toxicity free but better then methylation...

    so its 17a methyl, 13b ethyl or 18a methyl, 13b ethyl or 17a ethyl, 13b ethyl???? cause that would make a big difference in toxicity...

    sorry I just got a lil lost on your explanation...
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    isnt M-LMG 13b ethyl??? should be plenty available if thats could be considered a viable comparison.... Also doesnt necessarily mean its completely toxicity free but better then methylation...

    so its 17a methyl, 13b ethyl or 18a methyl, 13b ethyl or 17a ethyl, 13b ethyl???? cause that would make a big difference in toxicity...

    sorry I just got a lil lost on your explanation...
    13b-ethyl can also be written as 18-methyl. M-lmg is 13b-ethyl, yes. This compound may present some deal of liver stress, but as long as you are careful i think it'll be fine.
    Antaeus Rep

  24. definitely down

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Bry17

    13b-ethyl can also be written as 18-methyl. M-lmg is 13b-ethyl, yes. This compound may present some deal of liver stress, but as long as you are careful i think it'll be fine.
    Gotcha thanks for the clarification... I was like, wait a second... 18? Lol....

    Looking forward to this ones possibilities
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  26. I looked at this stuff last year.I wouldn't mind seeing this one come out.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    ZERO LIBIDO
    LMAO

    I'd be in man Antaeus is doing big things and I like it.

  28. i'm definitely game, count me in.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Bry17
    delta-9-norbolethone is the same as diethyldienolone

    I apologize if this is too technical for some, but here goes:

    the compound in question, "diethyldienolone"(if you want to be a little more specific we could call it 18-methyl-17a-ethyl-dienolone), is roughly twice as anabolic as norbolethone by the same administration method(subcutaneous injection) using the same standard which is 17a-ethyl-nortestosterone. diethyldienolone's anabolic:androgenic ratio by this form of administration is 1450 : 860.

    you can look at the specifics of the assay in here if anyone has access:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/5334628

    i do not know how active diethyldienolone will be orally(note that the above^ is by injection), but i would postulate that the extension of the 13b-methyl group to the 13b-ethyl will create steric hindrance during metabolism, and make it more bioavailable(thus more orally active). also the 17a-ethyl should do the same to prevent 17b-hydroxyl oxidation.

    it likely won't take a whole lot to make you guys big and strong, but that doesn't mean we should put it in 2mg caps and sell it. alpha/beta testing should determine how much we'll need, if this is released by antaeus in the future.
    Thank you
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