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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    thats what pa meant when he said i was correct. lucky guess, and still didn't understand what he meant. but thanks bro.

    but anywho, i remember methyl dienolone being sold in 2mg caps back in the day, but needing like 10-20mg for users to see gains, some even would go higher.
    lol you mean this mdien???



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    hot dayum lucky dog you.

    i had a chance to swipe up some methyl d when i first cam onto the ph scene, but didn't know enough about it.

    now i wish i had bought a couple bottles. it was cheap.
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    well hopefully this new version will fill the hole in your heart, lol

    Really though it would be awesome if its truly effective and can achieve optimal dosing for a good price... I guess thats what thorough alpha and beta testing is all about...

    now MENTdione just needs to come to market for our acceptable test base replacement. (wouldnt mind seeing a few other alternatives as well but MENT is very promising as a viable option)
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    mentdione was good stuff at 30mg e/d. I hope they dose it so one can easily go above that, cause it def could of been increased. zero sides at 30mg.

    im just guessing 60mg would probably be where they would start.

    now i got visions of running di ethyl dienolone/pstanz for 4 weeks, then mentadione/stanodrol for 4 weeks for an 8 week bulk/recomp!

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    that would be NICE!!!!

    6 spread out doses of 10mg would prob be ideal for keeping blood plasma levels even...


    My other thought would be... although this is orally active at a low enough dose maybe a TD application would be advantageous purely cause of the constant release through the Dermis one could get with only 2 daily applications... much like 4-AD...
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    i had mentioned it, and it was talked about, but phf didn't seem to take interest.
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    meh whatevers... lol. I dont mind 6 doses as long as they are caps.
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    just want to point out for y'all real quick.

    diethyldienolone's anabolic:androgenic ratio by intramuscular administration is 1450 : 860.
    yea, this is *subcutaneous injection, but to put in a bit of perspective, superdrol is 400/20.


    for w/e that's worth.
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    well, its looking good so far....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Antaeus View Post
    'Diethyldienolone' will be nothing at all like Trenazone. Dienolone is a 'pure' androgen; diethyldienolone is a progesterone receptor ligand which displays some secondary binding to the androgen receptor. They're both anabolic, and they're both 19-norsteroids with double-bonds at c4 and c9... but the similarities end there.
    A test batch will be made soon. There's so much going on right now that it might be six weeks or more until it is ready -- but I'll make it happen as soon as possible. I'm not too sanguine about the prospects for this compound, but we should probably make it & see how it works in vivo before we rush to conclusions, eh?
    There are other compounds in the works. One of them is very mild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Antaeus View Post
    I'll certainly take you up on that offer. As I had mentioned, there are a few things in the works. I'll PM you in a minute.
    (For what it's worth, I think that bryan101b should be the first human to use diethyldienolone. ;-) )
    and to re cap...

    Quote Originally Posted by BrYmAsTeR17 View Post


    The above images are how it looks in vida. N-98 is the diethyldienolone. The anabolic and androgenic value, Q ratio, Route of administration, and others are shown at the bottom of the second image. (very last row)
    Quote Originally Posted by BrYmAsTeR17 View Post
    Keep in mind guys this would be a very potent anabolic. It is undisputable. Norbolethone (a double bond short of diethyldienolone) and tetrahydrogestrinone (1 double bond more than diethyldienolone) are both extremely powerful steroids. You could think of diethyldienolone as like the intermediate of norbolethone and tetrahydrogestrinone.
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    I like the sounds of that, bry. The more I hear about it, the more I'd say I'd be interested in purchasing this.
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    I'd be all over this one!!
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    Count me interested
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    Ok, here is what I/U know. The major Pharma companies are on board with the TRT-HRT movement. THEY control the Govt! THEY are going to make money in the end. That is why OTC AAS/ PH's are dying out and it won't be too long before you can get ANY real AAS script, the good SH$t, with the blessing of your doctor, and his low T diagnosis;since you passed the age of 21 of course( as it begins to decline).


    Trust me on this one....
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    bump for freshness
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    Could a prohormone to thg be manufactured
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presa View Post
    Ok, here is what I/U know. The major Pharma companies are on board with the TRT-HRT movement. THEY control the Govt! THEY are going to make money in the end. That is why OTC AAS/ PH's are dying out and it won't be too long before you can get ANY real AAS script, the good SH$t, with the blessing of your doctor, and his low T diagnosis;since you passed the age of 21 of course( as it begins to decline).


    Trust me on this one....
    I highly doubt this, not enough research has gone into long term safety of other steroids and you have a general public and lobbyists that will prevent this from happening. Fun thought though, I am not holding my breath.
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    big pharma companies aren't into testosterone because they cant patent it, they would have to have a modified version of it, hence the big boom with modified versions of test, dht, and nandrolone.

    this way they could patent it and make $$$$. only problem is the side effects.

    that is why it hasn't become popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young JD View Post
    Could a prohormone to thg be manufactured
    im sure it could, but who knows how well it'd work.
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    interested
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    big pharma companies aren't into testosterone because they cant patent it, they would have to have a modified version of it, hence the big boom with modified versions of test, dht, and nandrolone.

    this way they could patent it and make $$$$. only problem is the side effects.

    that is why it hasn't become popular.
    SAMRS anyone??? This is the route theyd really like to take...
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    I am interested that is for sure. A hell of a lot of good talk in here. Making me want to buy some more stuff haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    SAMRS anyone??? This is the route theyd really like to take...
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    update:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Antaeus View Post
    Work on the 'diethyldienolone' will start soon... If all goes according to plan, we may have a workable sample in ~6-7 weeks. If issues arise, it may take slightly longer. I'll keep you all updated.
    (Please bump this thread in 7 weeks if you don't hear an update by then.)
    Regarding the more mild compound, it's hard for me to say exactly what it is, as it's not quite ready yet. (And we still need to run some tests on it.) Our plans can change at any time & I would hate to seem as though I'm going back on my word...
    But...
    ...Let me just say, to curb speculation, that it will be a methylated oral, and that the closest compound it can be compared to is androisoxazole.
    Transdermals and other stuff are also in the works, but they are perhaps a little bit further off. Also, some non-hormonal products are soon to be released.
    Thank you all VERY much for the support.
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    RELATIVE ORAL ANABOLIC TO ANDROGENIC ACTIVITY RATIOS OF ANDROISOXAZOLE, ETHYLESTRENOL, METHYLANDROSTENOLISOXAZOLE AND TESTOSTERONE
    Androisoxazole, 17α-methylandrost-4-en-17β-ol[2,3-d]isoxazole, 17α-ethyl-19-nor-estra-4-en-17β-ol and testosterone were evaluated experimentally for anabolic activity by means of nitrogen balance studies and for androgenic activity on the basis of increase weight of the ventral prostate gland in a 10-day assay.
    Under these conditions their anabolic:androgenic activities relative to methyltestosterone (= 1.0) and ratios were:
    androisoxazole (1.55/0.22) 7.0,
    methylandrostenol-isoxazole (1.2/0.15) 8.0,
    ethylestrenol (1.7/0.21) 8.1
    and, of historical interest, testosterone (0.38/0.57) 0.67.
    The first three agents thus are intermediate in degree of dissociation of anabolic and androgenic properties between methyltestosterone and the more promising isoxazole-conjugated and pyrazole-conjugated (stanozolol) agents discussed previously.
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    Nice post. Thanks for keeping us posted.
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    I would love to log this!
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    Make it now make all the products
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    Beta runs ASAP lol. Give it to me raw I'll make my own dammit!


    Edit: Wow I really wish I hadn't just told everyone to give it to me raw lol. Set myself up.
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    yeah, would like to see beta testing done soon. Hopefully we would get the product being sold retail in 120-150 days.
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    Well, Christmas should mark right around the 7 week mark (actually a few days before). So remember that and let's look forward to that date.

    I'm very impressed with Antaeus so far.
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    Trenazone is the bomb, this could only be another great addition to the line.
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    im all about non methylated compounds.
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    ^^^^ really??? lol.... wth is that in reference too???
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    This thread just keeps getting better!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough
    ^^^^ really??? lol.... wth is that in reference too???
    Nothing really, I just got the prodigy song stuck in my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young JD View Post
    Could a prohormone to thg be manufactured
    i suppose it could, but i would question the conversions of those 4,9,11 triene steroids.
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    I am very interested. I just had to take advantage of mrsupps bogo sale, but once my funds are good again I am definantly stocking up on some Ultradrol and Trenazone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter121 View Post
    More interest in non-hormonal type products.
    and yet you are in the hormonal section.......
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