What is the best anti Estrogen to take while on cycle.

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    What is the best anti Estrogen to take while on cycle.


    If you guys were to take an anti-E while on M-1-t cycle what would it be..I have my nolva/clomid for post but I am prone to water etenton but not gyno..Im taking 30mg a day which is a good dose for me at 240lbs...I am taking this product right now..Pure Rip W/Dim

    Day 7 weight increase 5 lbs pumps are sick...Lethergy is brutal especially while low carbing,had to dirty up the diet a bit with some extra carbs just to mow the friggin lawn..

    Any suggestions would be appreciated for anti-e while on cycle..I heard 6-oxo is ok for post but i use nolva/clomid combo for that..PS..I noticed last cycle by day 7 my nuts were pretty well shut down,but this time they have not.I am taking moderate dose of Tribulus from BAC W/80% sapoins and 3.3 grams of L-Dopa and also Horny Goat weed..I do not know if this is causing my Nutz to stay the same size but im not complaining..Libido has not changed at all..

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    Only problem I see with most anti-e's and a m1t based cycle is that it takes about a week for most anti-e's to lower your estrogen, and with m1t cycles being so short...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Only problem I see with most anti-e's and a m1t based cycle is that it takes about a week for most anti-e's to lower your estrogen, and with m1t cycles being so short...

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    What about taking an AI. Woudln't that help w/the bloat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticks
    What about taking an AI. Woudln't that help w/the bloat?

    Sorry sticks but what is AI...
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    aromatize inhibitor (sp?). Like letro or arimidex. I think it's best for keeping bloat down.
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    Anti-E Information-In Here

    check this thread out. It's not great but will get you started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sticks
    aromatize inhibitor (sp?). Like letro or arimidex. I think it's best for keeping bloat down.
    Ok I have heard of them formestate and **** like that..thanks Sticks.
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    No problem madman. They will be your best bet for keeping bloat of during cycle. Just don't try to substitute them for nolva/clomid post cycle.
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    If it's a M1T stand alone cycle there shouldn't be much estrogen build up. M1T doesn't convert to E but it seems to cause an increase in progesterone and occassionally prolactin as we've seen from some of the extreme M1T related gyno cases.

    Your best bet would be to take 10 mg or so of Nolva every day just to keep the Prog/prolactin at bay andapropriate tissues starved of estrogen. Once you initiate PCT simply up the dose of Nolva to 40 mg.

    6 oxo is so mild it should only be considered appropriate as a light, on cycle AI to keep bloat at bay.

    Personally I wouldn't take an anti E on a M1T cycle if I could avoid it. M1T screws up your cholesterol values badly and removing estrogen from the system will make this worse and take longer to recover lipids to a normal level.
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    Thank's you guys...Good stuff as usual Sticks and Bio....
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    I forgot to add that a lot of the bloating that can occur on M1T is likely the result of progesterone or even more likely..aldosterone.
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    Yea I remember reading about aldesterone being the cause of the severe bloating, don't know what to take for that though maybe some herbal diuretics?
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    I just live with it knowing its short term and its feeding my muscles. To my knowledge a brief spike in aldosterone is not bad. Maybe the gurus can shed some light on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    I just live with it knowing its short term and its feeding my muscles. To my knowledge a brief spike in aldosterone is not bad. Maybe the gurus can shed some light on this.
    Im also taking a herbal diuretic with uva-ursi and dandelion which is mild but does help keep the puffy look away....
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    Dandelion works ok, Vitex agnus-castus works as well..seems to reduce nipple puffiness rather quickly for me.
  

  
 

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