- 09-22-2011, 05:00 PM
Couple questions on this new product.
1) is it methylated?
2) do/should you stack anything with it?
3) how many bottles/caps a day to see decent effects?
4) what is a good/recommend pct?
5) is this comparable to the AMS "kits"?
6!!) is the berberine causing any GI issues?
- 09-22-2011, 05:39 PM
i'd like to see a log of this. dont know much about it but its dhea and not methylated. it could be stacked for sure thoughif blow was characterized as a guy, consider me a homosexual :)
- 09-22-2011, 07:04 PM
i'd like to see me log it, but i wasn't old enough among other things.
09-22-2011, 07:35 PM
Yeah there are some logs but ecery1 is just getting started
09-22-2011, 07:53 PM
09-22-2011, 07:54 PM
09-22-2011, 08:28 PM
09-22-2011, 08:28 PM
Ah. Thanks. Just read the facebook post.
How are the effects of lipid levels?
09-22-2011, 08:54 PM
Think I want to run this. I was happy with AMS stack. I used the deca 4-ad and 1-ad and the arom x. Saw the best gains over anything. I also thought the sublingual was pretty safe.
I almost want to run that kit again. Alpha mass sounds good too though. I'm just wondering if it's as safe and as good as the AMS kit and also what PCT to consider. Wonder if arom x would or if I want to search for a 4 week OTC PCT as was stated on my FB post....
09-22-2011, 09:42 PM
09-22-2011, 09:43 PM
09-22-2011, 09:45 PM
09-22-2011, 10:07 PM
U said u recommend 1 bottle for 4 weeks as the standard/norm correct?
09-22-2011, 10:17 PM
09-22-2011, 10:43 PM
man, so much good stuff, so little time.
09-22-2011, 10:45 PM
09-22-2011, 11:01 PM
Im assuming cycle assist would be needed not for the liver but bp and so on? Also, what are the gains/results of this? I have a bottle and was wondering if I should just run it solo or stack it w/ dzine or H drol? Please help with any opinions or suggestions, Im ready to get this thing started!
09-23-2011, 07:31 AM
09-23-2011, 09:27 AM
So by bridge you mean just start the hdrol when the AM runs out ending up with like a 10 week cycle? There wouldn't be any benefits of running them together? I appreciate the help!
09-23-2011, 10:31 AM
09-23-2011, 10:32 AM
09-23-2011, 03:10 PM
Really? Sound interesting as usual with your posts. Could you please share.Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd
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09-23-2011, 04:47 PM
Prohormone research suggests they work better in older men
Older men have lower testosterone, DHEA, dheas, etc levels.
Enzyme research suggests older men have a greater abundance of the enzymes needed to convert prohormones.
The enzyme upregulation is a result of decreased hormonal levels. It's the body trying to increase hormones as we age, unsuccessfully.
Suppressing ones testosterone may cause the body to react by increasing peripheral enzymes improving ph conversions.
In other words the intracrinology seems to not be impacted by the negative feedback loop like the hpta would. In fact it reacts in opposition.
09-23-2011, 07:16 PM
Wouldn't that be 8 weeks? So there would only be one week where the products are actually stacked? Would this yield better gains stretching it out or just running them together. I figured since the hdrol takes awhile to kick in the AM would act as a "kick start"?
09-25-2011, 09:57 AM
09-26-2011, 09:47 PM
isn't alpha mass way under dosed compared to andromass?
09-26-2011, 11:45 PM
Yea but they say the delivery system enhances absorption or something. Im going on 4 days and haven't noticed anything. I wish there where more logs, not sure when I'm supposed to start feeling this.
09-27-2011, 12:04 AM
09-27-2011, 01:26 AM
Well that sucks, its only a 4 week cycle! I think I might start my Hdrol to keep me lean and help even further w/ gains. Or maybe some dzine to kickstart it? Any suggestions?
09-27-2011, 01:30 AM
09-27-2011, 02:00 AM
Or I could possibly pick up another bottle of alpha and up the dose, run it for 6 weeks? I think it may be under dosed? Need a rep in here!
09-27-2011, 10:49 AM
09-27-2011, 05:07 PM
Was taking DAA, Agmatine, Anabeta and Erase. Stopped all but the Agmatine and started the AM. Use pump-bol w/ 200mg caffeine pwo. Other than multi and fish oils along w/ hawthornberry thats it. Jeez, writing it out I am taking alot! 5'9" ~ 190lb. Approx 10%bf. Looking to add as much lean bulk as possible w/o aggravating slight gyno. Oh yeah, ALSO taking the steroid Danazol for that from the dr. Amazing stuff. Lump and pain is almost gone and some androgenic benefits as well.
09-27-2011, 06:38 PM
09-28-2011, 09:21 AM
Just make sure to take them with fats. Give it some time to. PH's don't kick as hard as orals. The only time I feel on with about anything is in the gym when i notice strength, stamina, pump, and vascularity are up.
10-03-2011, 10:57 AM
6-8 weeks is best with non methylated compounds.
10-06-2011, 03:43 PM
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