I would love to try maybe Dbol first. My last cycle I used Cyp instead of E and found it took much longer to start and wish I had ran it then. However, I would be nervous to run anything oral back to back. This is only my 4th cycle and running Dbol to jump start and win at the end might be too much for my liver. I have considered EQ and Dbol, but I only tend to cut until I am satified in the mirror. I'm sure there would not be a lot of vascularity benifit seen at 14-15% body fat. Mass is the overall goal for now. Current stats are 5'7" 185. Enjoying the posts. Will be starting a new thread on cleaning up my diet for this next bulk.