Why so short with ph's??

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How come ph cycles are allways a lot shorter then steriod cycles.... (4-8)

as opposed to some steriod cycles lasting up to 12 weeks??????
I have yet to come up with the info for this yet does it have to do with sides or something???/
 
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Most people report a lessening/stopping of gains after 4-8 weeks with PHs is why.

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lancelot

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And many do not have access to HCG to do long cycles with ph's.
 
wastedwhiteboy2

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also with orals you have to be easy on your liver.
 

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with methylated orals, that is true. i wasn't aware that (for example), 1-ad et al were hepatotoxic, but i could be wrong.

also, most conventional PH cycles use no ester PH's which, unlike your deca/test type cycles, kick in much quicker, obviously.

what is the reason for the lack of effectiveness (alleged) after 4-8 weeks? is it an enzymatic limitation?
 

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methyls are the real issue for your liver....
but everything you take is gonna have some affect on ALL parts of your body imo...just gotta weigh the risks/benefits...
 

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