Why so short with ph's??

  1. Why so short with ph's??

    How come ph cycles are allways a lot shorter then steriod cycles.... (4-8)

    as opposed to some steriod cycles lasting up to 12 weeks??????
    I have yet to come up with the info for this yet does it have to do with sides or something???/

  2. Most people report a lessening/stopping of gains after 4-8 weeks with PHs is why.

    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  3. And many do not have access to HCG to do long cycles with ph's.

  4. also with orals you have to be easy on your liver.

  5. with methylated orals, that is true. i wasn't aware that (for example), 1-ad et al were hepatotoxic, but i could be wrong.

    also, most conventional PH cycles use no ester PH's which, unlike your deca/test type cycles, kick in much quicker, obviously.

    what is the reason for the lack of effectiveness (alleged) after 4-8 weeks? is it an enzymatic limitation?

  6. methyls are the real issue for your liver....
    but everything you take is gonna have some affect on ALL parts of your body imo...just gotta weigh the risks/benefits...

  7. Check this it. Some info here.

    length of real gear vs length of ph's


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