looking for PH suggestions based on situation
- 08-24-2011, 10:27 AM
looking for PH suggestions based on situation
I'm currently doing my first ph cycle, running IBE epi. I'm enjoying it quite a bit, 5 lbs. up less than 2 weeks in, and strength gains REALLY kicking in. Push up total AND bench strength going up, at the same time. I'm thinking I'd like to squeeze in another cycle of something before I ship off for the service next year. The problem I have with epi is that it's making me hungry. I was up 8 lbs. before I realized I was overshooting my diet, and backed off a bit. A lot of the training I do is bodyweight stuff, so gained weight is not that great, and I already carry a little more fat than I'd like (but who doesn't, right?). I'm looking for something that will help my strength and recovery without making me want to eat a house. I'm leaning towards h-drol at the moment. The epi is working well, but I'd like to try something different to see if there is something better for my very specific goals.
- 08-24-2011, 10:31 AM
- 08-24-2011, 01:36 PM
h-drol worked very well for me. it was my first and third cycle. my first cycle i seriously gained 20lbs. currently putting together a andromass and epi cycle.
08-24-2011, 01:38 PM
Sorry guys, I know this stuff has been asked plenty of times, but every time I turn around different things are/aren't available/legal anymore. It's really hard to find info that's completely up to date. Maybe an H-drol/Furuza-a stack?
08-24-2011, 01:42 PM
Epi is pretty dry for the most part. Whether you gain weight or not on it is going to depend on your diet. I mean if you are putting on muscle you ARE going to gain weight.
08-24-2011, 02:01 PM
BTW, thanks for the feedback so far guys.
08-24-2011, 02:04 PM
Well, make sure you keep in mind that time on+plus pct=time off before you start another cycle. An epi/katana cycle could give you some really nice lean, dry gains next time around. Maybe run transaderm while on. Then throw in some DAA in your pct.
08-24-2011, 02:17 PM
It's entirely possible that I won't have time to do another cycle before I ship. If it's even a question, I won't push it. I've got 2 more weeks on epi, then 4 weeks with tamox and erase for PCT.
Meh, I'm betting I won't have time to do another cycle. No need to push it when it comes to one's health, right?
I will, however, look into those products you mentioned, as once I'm out of basic I'm sure I'll be itching to get back to it.
Thanks for taking the time!
08-24-2011, 03:27 PM
08-24-2011, 03:53 PM
08-24-2011, 03:54 PM
I'm shipping in January for the Army. Not in yet. So many people going in that everyone has to wait.
08-24-2011, 04:57 PM
ok so a few things:
1. Basic is a complete joke
2. Army PT is a complete joke
3. Don't do PHs before basic, the food sucks
4. Where are you going to basic?
5. You want to work on pushups, sit-ups, running. general endurance, not strength, size, mass, etc. It'll benefit you in the long run
08-24-2011, 05:00 PM
here is the thing, you are taking a androgenic/ANABOLIC steroid, in the body, the anabolic process requires more energy. so (trying to word this correct) you are building up, and that is going to require more food.
if you dont want to gains weight, and just want to use the steroid to prevent muscle catabolism on a diet, a low dose is all you need (10-20mg)
but if you want to build muscle, you are going to have to eat more. diet and training intensity will determine the type of weight gain/fat loss.
something I like to do is use ephedrine on cycle. if you aren't healthy and get sides like bp in the hypertensive range, this option probably isn't for you.
but it curbs hunger, aids in fat loss, and gives solid energy when im feeling lethargic.
and it's cheap. a box of bronkaid from walgreens is like 12-13 bucks, and has like 50 tabs. I only use one tab, im not trying to run a fat loss stack.
08-24-2011, 05:39 PM
I have come to the conclusion that I won't have time for another cycle before I leave, but as I said, I really do appreciate the help from everyone.
08-24-2011, 05:48 PM
I'm only 1 1/2 weeks into my cycle, and already have had great strength gains, so I'm happy with my progress. It's been a bit of an experiment, seeing as my goals are quite different from most using these products.
08-24-2011, 06:07 PM
there's just not much point in putting on a lot of muscle before basic, it's all going to disappear. You eat at like 0500, 1300, 1700 each day. Never enough food or protein, and you have about 7 minutes. You'll be burning so many calories that you are going to lose a good deal of muscle and strength. While its not bad to be on cycle right now, you're likely going to lose it all and more at basic.
08-24-2011, 06:26 PM
Yeah, I know I will. I don't mind, actually. I'm already in pretty good shape, and the high reps of bodywieght stuff has actually given me some good hypertrophy in my upper body which is nice because I thought I would be losing mass.
I've got plenty of fat to give up, so I'm not worried about losing size and some muscle.
08-24-2011, 06:27 PM
cool, sounds good. and I'm not just saying this stuff. I'm a LT. Been through numerous training events with the army
08-24-2011, 07:59 PM
08-24-2011, 08:04 PM
too bad you couldn't take a bottle of epi or hdrol with you to basic, 10mg of epi, or 50mg of hd would help slow down/prevent muscle catabolism.
08-24-2011, 08:16 PM
08-24-2011, 10:06 PM
08-25-2011, 12:06 AM
08-25-2011, 12:41 AM
08-25-2011, 02:41 PM
Once I'm able to move off base I'll have some freedom again to control my diet and supplements.
So we'll call it a 20 week cut, lol. 6 pack here I come!
08-25-2011, 03:24 PM
Good luck bro. I find it funny that its that long when BOLC is 11-42 weeks (dependent on branch)
You'll be so busy that you'll lose quite a bit of bf. Just don't get greedy with the dessert in the DFAC lol. Make good food choices and you'll get ripped.
08-25-2011, 04:20 PM
08-25-2011, 04:51 PM
Yeah there's lots of tricks and tips. I lost 10lbs of fat in 4 weeks while eating MREs everyday. Just gotta trade and eat the good stuff, pb and stuff that's healthy and calorically filling. Any questions or tips PM me.
I've always loved long training cause I lose fat
08-25-2011, 07:12 PM
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