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What do you guys think is a better option for my 1T/4AD cycle?

gsteclipse97

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I planned out a 6 week cycle of 1T/4AD and had originally planned on going with S1+. I then did some more research about making my own topical because the only thing I don't really like about the S1+ is that it's a spray instead of a gel. So here are my options:

S1+ - 4 bottles needed for 6 week cycle - $130

OR

1 bottle of Power Gel from Power Nutrition w/ 12 grams of 1T powder from 1fast - $70
2 bottles of Power Gel w/9 grams each of 4AD powder from 1fast - $68
Total = $138

I am leaning more towards the second mainly because of it being a gel and I believe that it would be easier to apply but I don't know that for sure. My other concern is money since I am kind of broke and thats why I choose Power Gel over T-Gel.

What do you guys think? Do you think one is more effective than the other? T-Gel is quite a bit more but is it a better carrier? Would it be more effective?

Thanks guys in advance
 
For a 6 wk cycle - you would need only 3 bottles of S1+
what dose are you running it at
 
Deoudes59 said:
For a 6 wk cycle - you would need only 3 bottles of S1+
what dose are you running it at
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day 1-17 200/300
day 18-31 300/450
day 32-42 400/600

equals out to exactly 4 bottles of S1+ if i used it.
 
Is this your first cycle? if so no reason to exceed 200 or 300.
 
yes it is, if i did it for 6 weeks and only went up to 300 should i split it 50/50 such as

day 1-21 200/300
day 22-42 300/450

or

day 1-14 200/300
day 15-42 300/450
 
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Deoudes59 said:
What are your goals exactly?
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to add some mass. main goal right now is mass and then after this cycle is over i would be looking to cut down to around 10-12%. im currently around 195-200 and probably 18% roughly.
 
stick @ 200mg a day and bump it up if you need too. Should be plenty for a 1st cycle (worked fine for me).
 
cr4ytonic said:
stick @ 200mg a day and bump it up if you need too. Should be plenty for a 1st cycle (worked fine for me).
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how much did you gain and how long was your cycle?

also does anyone have any input on which one i should use besides how much i should use.
 
Last cycle I did s1+ at the recommend dose followed by 4 week nolva.

+18 on the final day. After PCT did some cutting, I am much leaner now than before I started the cycle and am still up 8-10lbs on the scale (so I gained more than 8-10 in muscle since fat has been lost).
 
stick @ 200mg a day and bump it up if you need too.
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I think you're telling him to use 200mg 1-test/ 200mg 4-ad transdermal per day. Is that right or are you referring to a total of 200mg between the two?

Also, why a 1:1 ratio? I usually see more 4-ad recommended. Maybe I don't understand the purpose of each.
 
rrgg said:
I think you're telling him to use 200mg 1-test/ 200mg 4-ad transdermal per day. Is that right or are you referring to a total of 200mg between the two?
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i figured he meant 200mg 1-test and 300mg 4ad which is the ratio of 10 sprays a day of S1+.
 
3 Bottles of S1+ over 6 weeks.
You'll get the exact same gains as 4 bottles - if it is your first cycle.
 
gsteclipse97 said:
i figured he meant 200mg 1-test and 300mg 4ad which is the ratio of 10 sprays a day of S1+.
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:goodpost:

Sorry I should have made that more clear, by 200mg I was referring to 200mg of 1-test, and the 300mg of 4ad that would accompany it.
 
ok well im gonna order all of my stuff this week. i am going to do a 5 week cycle of S1+ most likely it will be 2.5 weeks 200/300 and 2.5 weeks 300/450. I will be using nolva for pct, do you suggest 5 weeks also, i see you did 4 weeks, did that work fine for you? and for your dosing did you start at 60ml and taper down each week?
 
I do the following:

Week 1 - 60mg or 3ml/day
Week 2 - 60mg or 3ml/day
Week 3 - 45mg or 2.25ml/day
Week 4 - 30mg or 1.5ml/day
 
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