- 08-09-2004, 07:14 PM
- 08-09-2004, 07:33 PM
it would be more expensive and less effective, i'm not sure what you mean by bad...
- 08-09-2004, 08:15 PM
Originally Posted by ass2grass
08-09-2004, 09:57 PM
pardon me, I'm very newbish when it comes to this.....Originally Posted by The Rob
08-09-2004, 11:15 PM
1-AD and 4-AD are very good orals, maybe the best.
I put on 15 lbs solid muscle on my first 1-ad cycle, which was more than i wanted, i looked like a freak (to normal people )
And 4-AD is supposed to add more mass than 1-ad, so, dont worry about transdermals. Most people whine about products but dont eat enough for anything to matter. My mass secret is smoking(green stuff) before bed . It makes you EAT, EAT, EAT until you're full, and then EAT some more, then you sleep like a baby and build precious muscle. Anyways, thats my two cents.
08-10-2004, 09:06 AM
A serious body builder doesn't use illegal drugs, nor drink alcohol. That's just my opinion, but I can see how smoking marijuana could help you eat your brains out.
Also, I agree transdermals do seem some what of a hassel. I myself am thinking about stepping in on 1-AD, 4-AD, and flushing the mother with 6OXO.
That reminds, I have a question for those that have used these specific prohormones. I myself am a big caffeine drinker. I drink coffee every morning and iced tea later in the day once and awhile. More so in the summer, I'm thinking. Anyways... would these prohormones work properly if I were to keep drinking my cup a day? I'm curious, would I get the normal coffee buzz and still having a clear focus? This is my first year of college, and I can't allow screw ups... period. Greatly appreciated for some feed back in advance!
08-10-2004, 09:13 AM
you should be alright with the coffee. However the transdermals
are cheaper and have a better absorption rate over the orals, that is why
alot of people go with the transdermals, they are cheaper and the absorption rate is better.
I believe the trans. are better for your liver as well.
08-10-2004, 11:22 AM
So how do you get 1-AD, 4-AD, and 6OXO in transdermals anyways??
Fill me up with comments/suggestions/questions. Thanks!!!
08-10-2004, 11:26 AM
1-ad & 6oxo are usually taken orally, t-test and 4ad transdermally.
1-test/4ad transdermally is the way to go. You can buy them premixed or get some t-gel from customnutrition and add 1-test and 4ad powder to it from 1fast400.
08-10-2004, 12:10 PM
chuck in some M5AA, and you got a hell of a cycle there.1-test/4ad transdermally is the way to go. You can buy them premixed or get some t-gel from customnutrition and add 1-test and 4ad powder to it from 1fast400.
08-10-2004, 12:14 PM
how much cheaper are transdermals compared to the oral method?
i'm very interested... wanting to hit the prohormones before they get taken off the shelves.
08-10-2004, 12:16 PM
what is M5AA? i don't have enough time right now to search the web on it...
08-10-2004, 12:19 PM
you can get a 4 week supply of transdermal 1-test/4ad for under $100
08-10-2004, 12:25 PM
roughly if i did one cycle of transdermal of 1-test/4ad think i'd atleast gain 10 lbs?
08-10-2004, 12:41 PM
M5AA is methylated DHT. good for lean strength, bad for hair. also I would take the 1-test instead of 1ad. 1ad still has to convert. that means you'll lose some in the conversion and the liver. I did a short light oral cycle of 1ad and 4ad and gained 7 lbs. I liked it but have moved on to M1T.
08-10-2004, 03:28 PM
some NICE answers on this board! thx guys, real helpful.Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2
As for PCT for this particular cycle would 6OXO be better than Nolva? because that is what I was thinking of going with.
edit: the nolva I mean
Last edited by The Rob; 08-10-2004 at 03:47 PM.
08-25-2004, 08:50 PM
Just so you know,,,weed lowers your test levels and raises your estrogen, genius!
08-27-2004, 03:40 AM
proof?Originally Posted by jeremiah1710
08-27-2004, 01:31 PM
For one I was a pothead for several years, and smoked while I trained. For two, I did my research on the subject. I suggest you do the same. Now I'm not saying that a little weed once in a while is going to wreck your BB goals, but more than say, once a week surley would, and to say that it is your answer to growth is just plain naive. But to each there own. Btw, i don't smoke anymore, haven't for years, and I certainly notice a huge difference in training capacity and growth. My 2COriginally Posted by ass2grass
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