ANDROMASS log

[brugalou]

What week were you in when you felt it kick in?

[ReyMan]

this is the worst log i've seen in a while.

[fightbackhxc]

this is the worst log i've seen in a while.

lawlz.

[apoxtle]

how the hell did my name get thrown into that? funny, never posted that.

Yeah i've put on significant mass.

apoxtle: Yeah it would seem suspicious wouldn't it lol.

but anyway, i want to start taking t3 but I don't know if andromass is strong enough to combat the muscle losing effects of the t3. Hmm.......

[BigRigg]

i saw that post on this thread earlier, must have been deleted or something

[HereToStudy]

Whats the latest?

[BigBlackGuy]

Well the sudden change came from the following:

-Being able to workout for hours on end
-really awesome pumps
-size difference

So it is actually pretty good stuff. Although I would like to see more from it but perhaps v3 will be more effective.

I think more advanced lifters might need 9 caps to see the full effectiveness of v2 andromass. We've yet to see what V3 will do, but I have a feeling it'll be more effective.

[fightbackhxc]

I think more advanced lifters might need 9 caps to see the full effectiveness of v2 andromass. We've yet to see what V3 will do, but I have a feeling it'll be more effective.

with an additional 3 caps...would you recommend shortening the cycle length?

[Rodja]

with an additional 3 caps...would you recommend shortening the cycle length?

I wouldn't. It takes time for the muscle to mature.

[fightbackhxc]

so 9 caps 6 weeks?

[ryansm]

so 9 caps 6 weeks?

I would go 6-8

[fightbackhxc]

I would go 6-8

what is the possibility of testicular damage at 8 weeks?

[BigBlackGuy]

what is the possibility of testicular damage at 8 weeks?

It depends. I know that free radicals can damage the testes during ANY steroid cycle, no matter the length. It's one of the reasons people have a harder and harder time recovering from multiple/longer steroid cycles. I don't know what the difference would be with two 4 weekers or one 8 weeker. Toco-8 is designed to fight these free radicals, that's why I use it all the time. Not to turn this into an advertisement.

My recommendation is 6 weeks at 9 caps or 8 weeks at 6 caps. But 8 weeks is certainly the point of diminishing returns.

[fightbackhxc]

It depends. I know that free radicals can damage the testes during ANY steroid cycle, no matter the length. It's one of the reasons people have a harder and harder time recovering from multiple/longer steroid cycles. I don't know what the difference would be with two 4 weekers or one 8 weeker. Toco-8 is designed to fight these free radicals, that's why I use it all the time. Not to turn this into an advertisement.

My recommendation is 6 weeks at 9 caps or 8 weeks at 6 caps. But 8 weeks is certainly the point of diminishing returns.

Oh I can vouch for Toco 8. Love the stuff. So Toco8 and DAA on cycle to mitigate...along with some L-Dopa...sound like a good run for 8 weeks? Do you think that would mitigate testicular damage?

[Rodja]

Oh I can vouch for Toco 8. Love the stuff. So Toco8 and DAA on cycle to mitigate...along with some L-Dopa...sound like a good run for 8 weeks? Do you think that would mitigate testicular damage?

By damage, do you mean atrophy?

[fightbackhxc]

By damage, do you mean atrophy?

correct. I have heard long periods of intaking exogenous hormones can cause permanent testicular atrophy.

[Rodja]

correct. I have heard long periods of intaking exogenous hormones can cause permanent testicular atrophy.

I don't think it'll help to prevent it (nothing outside of hCG really can), but it will help to reduce said damage. Also, it's not like running 1g of test and tren for 20 weeks.

[ryansm]

what is the possibility of testicular damage at 8 weeks?

We've had loggers running 20+ weeks with AH and only needing a light PCT

[bla55]

Holly balls... 20+ weeks?! What kind of dosage / results did they have?

Although I probably would never be able to lay off the booze for 20 weeks.

[mattrag]

We've had loggers running 20+ weeks with AH and only needing a light PCT

20 weeks and Id probably lose all the hair I have left on my head.... hahah
Nice to know its not very suppressive.