ANDROMASS log

**BigBlackGuy** · 08-26-2011, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by princeshock

Okay well im giving an update. So far its working..but its not very impressive. Hopefully it will kick in better soon. I don't really have all day perpetuos pumps and hardness. I don't have that feeling of looking at any weight in front of me and just busting out reps either. Maybe these things will kick in all of a sudden.

Only wondering because of your recent update... about being able to keep lifting forever lol

**princeshock** · 08-28-2011, 12:35 AM

The thing is, this isn't really turning me into a machine. That's a big part of what gear does.. This stuff is okay though.....its alright.

**rulk22** · 08-28-2011, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by princeshock

The thing is, this isn't really turning me into a machine. That's a big part of what gear does.. This stuff is okay though.....its alright.

Hope this cranks up for you this week. maybe add a cap to each dose in a week if it doesnt?

**princeshock** · 08-28-2011, 10:23 PM

Oh just thought I would list the side effects if anyone's interested.

Side effects currently are acne and somewhat lost of libido.

**HereToStudy** · 08-29-2011, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by princeshock

Oh just thought I would list the side effects if anyone's interested.

Side effects currently are acne and somewhat lost of libido.

The libido is something we are working on for v3, some see and increase, but others a decrease. Most likely a result of the 1-DHEA.

**BigBlackGuy** · 08-30-2011, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by HereToStudy

The libido is something we are working on for v3, some see and increase, but others a decrease. Most likely a result of the 1-DHEA.

Yah, we're optimizing... progress people, progress.

**princeshock** · 09-02-2011, 01:58 AM

This stuff is definitively working. I was a none believer before but I think i'm changing my mind.., I think I want to keep running it!

**mattrag** · 09-02-2011, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by princeshock

This stuff is definitively working. I was a none believer before but I think i'm changing my mind.., I think I want to keep running it!

Great to hear!!
Just for those who want more AndroMass, it's on 50% off at Nutra for their labor day sale!!

**HereToStudy** · 09-02-2011, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by mattrag

Great to hear!!
Just for those who want more AndroMass, it's on 50% off at Nutra for their labor day sale!!

Very nice!

**fightbackhxc** · 09-02-2011, 02:13 PM

updates please. what made you change your mind?

**Rodja** · 09-02-2011, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

updates please. what made you change your mind?

I'm curious as well.

**BigBlackGuy** · 09-02-2011, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by princeshock

This stuff is definitively working. I was a none believer before but I think i'm changing my mind.., I think I want to keep running it!

x2 about wanting to know the sudden change in mind set!!

**princeshock** · 09-03-2011, 02:31 AM

Well the sudden change came from the following:

-Being able to workout for hours on end
-really awesome pumps
-size difference

So it is actually pretty good stuff. Although I would like to see more from it but perhaps v3 will be more effective.

**ReyMan** · 09-03-2011, 02:45 AM

Are you putting on any significant MASS?!

**apoxtle** · 09-03-2011, 02:58 AM

this thread seems suspicious

**princeshock** · 09-03-2011, 04:02 AM

Yeah i've put on significant mass.

apoxtle: Yeah it would seem suspicious wouldn't it lol.

but anyway, i want to start taking t3 but I don't know if andromass is strong enough to combat the muscle losing effects of the t3. Hmm.......

**mattrag** · 09-03-2011, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by princeshock

Yeah i've put on significant mass.

apoxtle: Yeah it would seem suspicious wouldn't it lol.

but anyway, i want to start taking t3 but I don't know if andromass is strong enough to combat the muscle losing effects of the t3. Hmm.......

That would be interesting to test. Would like to hear back if you try this.

**ryansm** · 09-03-2011, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by princeshock

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but anyway, i want to start taking t3 but I don't know if andromass is strong enough to combat the muscle losing effects of the t3. Hmm.......

Probably not unless you increase dose

**mattrag** · 09-03-2011, 06:28 PM

Ahh. I'd guess unless you're on injectables and orals you'd be prone to muscle loss.

**TexanSoldier8** · 09-04-2011, 05:14 PM

Could you post an update in progress pictures? I am very interested in trying Andromass, my main goal is to increase my mass, though strength is always nice but i need more size lol

**brugalou** · 09-04-2011, 07:04 PM

What week were you in when you felt it kick in?

**ReyMan** · 09-04-2011, 10:13 PM

this is the worst log i've seen in a while.

**fightbackhxc** · 09-04-2011, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by ReyMan

this is the worst log i've seen in a while.

lawlz.

**apoxtle** · 09-05-2011, 03:09 AM

how the hell did my name get thrown into that? funny, never posted that.

Originally Posted by princeshock

Yeah i've put on significant mass.

apoxtle: Yeah it would seem suspicious wouldn't it lol.

but anyway, i want to start taking t3 but I don't know if andromass is strong enough to combat the muscle losing effects of the t3. Hmm.......

**BigRigg** · 09-05-2011, 09:43 AM

i saw that post on this thread earlier, must have been deleted or something

**HereToStudy** · 09-06-2011, 02:59 AM

Whats the latest?

**BigBlackGuy** · 09-06-2011, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by princeshock

Well the sudden change came from the following:

-Being able to workout for hours on end
-really awesome pumps
-size difference

So it is actually pretty good stuff. Although I would like to see more from it but perhaps v3 will be more effective.

I think more advanced lifters might need 9 caps to see the full effectiveness of v2 andromass. We've yet to see what V3 will do, but I have a feeling it'll be more effective.

**fightbackhxc** · 09-06-2011, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy

I think more advanced lifters might need 9 caps to see the full effectiveness of v2 andromass. We've yet to see what V3 will do, but I have a feeling it'll be more effective.

with an additional 3 caps...would you recommend shortening the cycle length?

**Rodja** · 09-06-2011, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

with an additional 3 caps...would you recommend shortening the cycle length?

I wouldn't. It takes time for the muscle to mature.

**fightbackhxc** · 09-06-2011, 04:31 PM

so 9 caps 6 weeks?

**ryansm** · 09-06-2011, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

so 9 caps 6 weeks?

I would go 6-8

**fightbackhxc** · 09-06-2011, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by ryansm

I would go 6-8

what is the possibility of testicular damage at 8 weeks?

**BigBlackGuy** · 09-07-2011, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

what is the possibility of testicular damage at 8 weeks?

It depends. I know that free radicals can damage the testes during ANY steroid cycle, no matter the length. It's one of the reasons people have a harder and harder time recovering from multiple/longer steroid cycles. I don't know what the difference would be with two 4 weekers or one 8 weeker. Toco-8 is designed to fight these free radicals, that's why I use it all the time. Not to turn this into an advertisement.

My recommendation is 6 weeks at 9 caps or 8 weeks at 6 caps. But 8 weeks is certainly the point of diminishing returns.

**fightbackhxc** · 09-07-2011, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy

It depends. I know that free radicals can damage the testes during ANY steroid cycle, no matter the length. It's one of the reasons people have a harder and harder time recovering from multiple/longer steroid cycles. I don't know what the difference would be with two 4 weekers or one 8 weeker. Toco-8 is designed to fight these free radicals, that's why I use it all the time. Not to turn this into an advertisement.

My recommendation is 6 weeks at 9 caps or 8 weeks at 6 caps. But 8 weeks is certainly the point of diminishing returns.

Oh I can vouch for Toco 8. Love the stuff. So Toco8 and DAA on cycle to mitigate...along with some L-Dopa...sound like a good run for 8 weeks? Do you think that would mitigate testicular damage?

**Rodja** · 09-07-2011, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

Oh I can vouch for Toco 8. Love the stuff. So Toco8 and DAA on cycle to mitigate...along with some L-Dopa...sound like a good run for 8 weeks? Do you think that would mitigate testicular damage?

By damage, do you mean atrophy?

**fightbackhxc** · 09-07-2011, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Rodja

By damage, do you mean atrophy?

correct. I have heard long periods of intaking exogenous hormones can cause permanent testicular atrophy.

**Rodja** · 09-07-2011, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

correct. I have heard long periods of intaking exogenous hormones can cause permanent testicular atrophy.

I don't think it'll help to prevent it (nothing outside of hCG really can), but it will help to reduce said damage. Also, it's not like running 1g of test and tren for 20 weeks.

**ryansm** · 09-07-2011, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

what is the possibility of testicular damage at 8 weeks?

We've had loggers running 20+ weeks with AH and only needing a light PCT

**bla55** · 09-07-2011, 10:26 AM

Holly balls... 20+ weeks?! What kind of dosage / results did they have?

Although I probably would never be able to lay off the booze for 20 weeks.

**mattrag** · 09-07-2011, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by ryansm

We've had loggers running 20+ weeks with AH and only needing a light PCT

20 weeks and Id probably lose all the hair I have left on my head.... hahah
Nice to know its not very suppressive.

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