Fake Kilo Sport's 1-test? I hope not

[CEDeoudes59]

Hey guys i've been on cycle for 2 weeks:
- 300mg 1-test
- 300mg 4-ad
- 20mg M4OHN

I'm up maybe 2 lbs.
The Kilosports 1-test powder is 1.5-2 years old. I've never had problems with them before... Is this stuff too old (it was sealed in a container) or could this be a bad batch??

[D_town]

Being powder, it should still be good. How are you using- trans, with oil, cap'em, etc... Should be creaping up on you anytime soon otherwise. I doubt Martin's 1-Test powder was bad.

[CEDeoudes59]

9grams in Omega/BDC T-GEL - 150mg 2x a day.
Only up 2 lbs. Very Surprised. That's why I'm surprised.
My Diet has been very good.

[D_town]

Diet been good- Have you upped calories signifigantly? Your cycle seems like a cutting cycle, am I wrong. Are you having any strength gains or body comp. changes? I hope your gains start soon, I know you know your stuff and it would be very unfortunate to waste a few weeks on a dudd.

[CEDeoudes59]

It's a lean mass cycle of sorts, I was expecting more 'lean mass' though. I should still see a strength gain though.
Is it possible that I have a tolerance to 1-test?
I've run 2 x 2 week cycles of M1t earlier this year.
And 1 2week cycle of 1-test

Should'nt have a tolerance?!?

[D_town]

Have your other cycles all been satisfying? Even if 1-T is weak, you should have had some strength from the 4-AD and MOHN. I'm not sure about a tolerance from 1-T per se, but being a fourth cycle in 1 year could have a factor in it.

[CEDeoudes59]

Hmm, I'm not sure, the other cycles M1t or 1-test cycle were just 2 weekers though. And I always take the correct amount of recovery time.

I'm going to step up the calories. I'm definitily pumped, but that could be the 4-ad.

[D_town]

Or could be your nerves from dissappointment. J/K I hope that I see you see a turn of events for you tommorrow or at least the next few days. It's so easy to jump to comclusions when things don't happen the way you expected. GOOD LUCK

[CEDeoudes59]

thanks man, I'm looking for that strength blast -- I'll see if I get it tonight

[SCORPIO]

I kinda ran into this problem a couple of yrs back. I've also always got my 1-test powder from kilo. Always had successful cycles, then one time....using the same batch 1-test ran another 1-test/4ad cycle and did not make as good gains. I remember I was eating well and asked this same ??? here. I also remember Curt telling me that maybe I needed to give my body/receptors a break. I had done a preveious cycle followed by PCT and time off. May or may not be true, but hard to tell. It's kinda like diagnosing the "my car won't start problem" I can be many things.

[CEDeoudes59]

Thanks for the notes Scorpio, you think my receptors need a break, even though i've only run small cycles of 2 weeks this year?
Do you still use 1-test today, how effective is it?

[UncalledFor]

I have taken a similar stack. 400 mg 1-test/ 300 mg 4AD/ 6 mg Methyl-D. I actually lost 2 lbs. The cycle only lasted 1 1/2 weeks though, due to back injury. I think I have some freaky weight issues.

[CEDeoudes59]

Crazy
You gain 8lbs in 1 day on M1T, but down 2lbs on 1T,4ad,MD?
Obviously you think M1T is superior correct?

[SCORPIO]

Thanks for the notes Scorpio, you think my receptors need a break, even though i've only run small cycles of 2 weeks this year?
Do you still use 1-test today, how effective is it?

You really shouldn't need a break, but who knows? We are all different. Did you use really high doses? how many cycles and how long were they last year? What other substances have you used besides 1-test?

Haven't used 1-test in a while....The stuff I do have is like yours about 1.5yrs old from kilo.....but it always did burn and I did get results from the first couple of cycles. I'm thinking of scoring some from 1fast and trying it next time to see if I notice a difference. I'll have to wait cause I'm 1.5 wks into m4ohn cycle.

[CEDeoudes59]

You really shouldn't need a break, but who knows? We are all different. Did you use really high doses? how many cycles and how long were they last year? What other substances have you used besides 1-test?

Haven't used 1-test in a while....The stuff I do have is like yours about 1.5yrs old from kilo.....but it always did burn and I did get results from the first couple of cycles. I'm thinking of scoring some from 1fast and trying it next time to see if I notice a difference. I'll have to wait cause I'm 1.5 wks into m4ohn cycle.

I think its kicked in pretty well. Great Workout tonight.
How long of a break do you take between cycles?
Or perhaps, the better question, what is your cycling schedule during the year?

[SCORPIO]

I think its kicked in pretty well. Great Workout tonight.
How long of a break do you take between cycles?
Or perhaps, the better question, what is your cycling schedule during the year?

I usually take twice as long off as time on....depending on what substances I took and bad they shut me down....m1t kicked my ass! now a days I usually do 4-6wk cycles....never gone past 4wks w/m1t. Remember there is PCT, then there is time off/recovery.....before starting another cycle/

Cycles, I usually do 2-3 per yr I would say.

[meathead1987]

9grams in Omega/BDC T-GEL - 150mg 2x a day.
Only up 2 lbs. Very Surprised. That's why I'm surprised.
My Diet has been very good.

Dont dermals take ~2 weeks to really kick in?

[CEDeoudes59]

Usually, but I once gained 6-8lbs in 2weeks on 1-test
Eatting Lots of Food though

[meathead1987]

It could have been a lot of water if you were eating a lot, or if you'd just come off a cut.

[Longdog]

It always takes me 2 weeks to see any effects of tarnsdermal 1-test/4ad, & m4OHN took just about that long too. Being up 2lbs, it is probably starting to kick in now.