Halo vs Epi in regards to hardening up

Bilskirnir

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Looking to run an extended cycle coming this fall or winter. First phase will be an all out bulk and second phase I'm looking to harden up a bit while still increasing mass. Which would you all recommend be better suited for this during the second phase? I've already ordered some Halo and I was waiting to get Epi on Monday, looking to plan it out now to determine how much Epi I grab. Or if Halo would serve just as well I may just save some money and hold off on Epi for a little while. Is either a little easier on the liver than the other or are they about the same? Obviously supports will be taken care of, but since it will be a longer cycle I would prefer going with the slightly less toxic compound if there is much of a difference, I was unable to find a solid answer through google so not even sure if anyone here would know. Otherwise looking for the best option for the hardening effect.
 

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K, if I went with Epi I would start out something like 30/30/40/40 starting week 6 and bump if need be if sides were manageable. Open to other input as well from others.
 
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epi is very drying,. especially on joints
 

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Yeah, I've seen a lot of people complain of dry joints on Epi. I'd probably need a joint support on it since cortisol suppressors always make my elbows hurt. Epi would probably be worse.
 
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Fish oil or flax seed oil was always enough for me and my joints on epi. Never had much of a problem with dry joints as a whole.

I do love epi though and prefer it over halo
 

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Thanks guys, looks like I'll be going with Epi then and I'll have to find a place for the Halo somewhere else.
 

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epi should be better for dry lean gains. If you want to be harder, take a low dose AI while on cycle. Forma stanzol would be a good choice.
 

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