PHs used for contest dieting
- 08-03-2004, 03:13 PM
PHs used for contest dieting
I'm currently 9 weeks out from an amateur show. This is my first time competitng and I was thinking of using a PH to harden up. I've had 1-test and M5AA in mind for a 4-6 week cycle. I want to try 1-test/3 alpha in a transdermal but I was thinking that may be too androgenic. Would this be a better stack if I included a small amount of an aromitizable PH such as 4ad or 1,4 Andro. I would also be interested in the PHs others used to cut up. I've done a couple of PH cycles in the past including 4ad, 1,4 Andro, 4ht, and 1-test
Thanks a lot
- 08-03-2004, 03:49 PM
M5aa would be perfect for this, go with at least 80-100mg ED for 6 weeks.. I'll be doing the same only adding Proviron @ 50mg ED.. This stack (I've done it already) is damn good for hardening, and giving a full pump with very little in regards to water retention..
08-03-2004, 04:06 PM
08-03-2004, 04:15 PM
08-03-2004, 05:08 PM
08-03-2004, 06:13 PM
I know you know what you are doing so I'm not implying anything here but I always thought people agreed that 6 weeks on a methyl was too long. I'm going to be doing a contest too and am planning a very similar stack, and if I'm able to run some M5AA safely for 6 weeks, I sure as hell am going to do so!Originally Posted by bigpetefox
08-03-2004, 10:41 PM
I think it depends on the compound.. M5 seems to be abit mild in the side-effects department, while M1T would be like a slow death.. I wouldn't say it's cool to use drol or dbol that long, but it has been done..Originally Posted by PumpingBricks70
08-05-2004, 09:56 PM
08-05-2004, 10:34 PM
Bump on the M5AA...love that stuff. Just stated another cut w/ 50mg a day, bumping to 60 or 80 on weeks 2, 3.
08-05-2004, 10:38 PM
08-06-2004, 12:29 PM
It can be done, the problem would be do you really wanna be a zombie?Originally Posted by BigChuckles
08-06-2004, 01:29 PM
Haha what do you mean by being a zombie? Will I be like suppressed and tired all the time? Fill me in.
08-06-2004, 01:31 PM
That's the answer..Originally Posted by BigChuckles
I'm a brave soul, so if I had the means I'd go with 1-test cyp 200mg EOD, and M5 60mg ED for 8 weeks.. I'm planning the same with 5AA cyp and M5 in the next couple weeks..
08-06-2004, 01:48 PM
8 weeks? I don't think I could go that long. Sounds like suicide haha. I may stick to the 6 weeks with a 1-test transdermal. I don't wanna pin myself yet. I'm scared How much does that dosage of 1-test cyp translate into a daily dosage of 1-test transdermal. Do you think the addition of 1,4 andro will be good? I want to use this up until the competition so I don't want any water weight gain.Originally Posted by bigpetefox
08-06-2004, 02:25 PM
Yeah, I was saying I'm brave enough to try it..
Go for 6wks, the injectable would be absorbed higher than the transdermal.. You'd need alot of transdermal daily to match a 400mg per week dose.. Too bad there's no 1-test prop out..
08-06-2004, 03:10 PM
Well do you think the 1,4 andro would be a good choice to add up until the competition? You know to keep some estrogen in the body? Sorry if i'm becoming a bug-a-boo
08-06-2004, 03:27 PM
I ran a 2 week M1T cycle, and started M5aa 3 days before the end and ran it 1 Month at 40mg perday, excellent results.Actually thinking of adding M5aa to the end of a test/eq cycle instead of whinny, or VAR.
08-06-2004, 03:36 PM
If you do, I'd say not to use the methylated product.. If alittle estrogen is needed, go with 1,4AD products like Boldione.. Or, try a low-dose oral 4AD, maybe around 400mg ED..Originally Posted by BigChuckles
08-06-2004, 11:16 PM
Where can I go to find out info about how to pin myself. I may work up the nerve over the next couple of weeks if I build up the confidence.Originally Posted by bigpetefox
08-07-2004, 09:39 AM
08-07-2004, 09:37 PM
Well i'm debating on using 1-test Cyp and 5 AA Cyp (assuming I work up the nerve to pin) or 1-test transdermal and M5AA. I was reading up on the M4OHN and it is suppose to stimulate CNS. I'm assuming this would help with the lethargy of the 1-test? If I chose not to pin would this be to stressful on my liver because the cycle would involve two methyls? I think my cycle will only be 6 weeks long as I stated earlier. I may be willing to have some bloodwork taken assuming my pocket book can handle it. BP or anyone else fill me in.
08-08-2004, 01:13 PM
I have no idea but would m5aa and 5aa cyp be the same thing if you injected the cyp? And it wouldn't be as bad on your liver either? Why would you want to run both at the same time? thanks for the help
08-08-2004, 01:30 PM
I don't want to take m5aa and 5aa cyp at the same time. I want to include either m5aa or 5aa cyp in my stack.Originally Posted by jimmypop13
08-08-2004, 08:03 PM
oops, I didn't mean you, I just meant why would anyone want to run both if they are the same thing. Are they?
08-08-2004, 08:34 PM
oh ok. Well there chemical make up is slightly different but i'm not sure exactly how they are different in regards to how they work.Originally Posted by jimmypop13
08-09-2004, 02:42 AM
Anybody have any problems w/acne while on M5AA? I'm 38 yrs old and still get a zit or two
when I stress out. TIA
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