[BarbellBeast]

Presale will be up 7/1/11, we are also going to be a sponsor on this forum in the next week or two, just waiting to hear back on it. NP should have it as well but we need you guys to let them know you are interested in it in their section!

We will be giving away some for logging opportunities once we are here as well.

Glad to see you guys coming to AM... You got a solid product already, looking forward to what you're gonna bring to the market!

[anbes]

Wich is the profile type of this ph? Bulker? Lean?
And about the non-steroid? Would it be somethink like anabeta?

[jbryand101b]

the compound should be a dry mass gainer compound significantly more powerful than m1t (looking at vida's numbers)

[xFRACTION]

this looks pretty intense! I expect an answer on whether or not i can log one by early next week as I plan on starting my predetermined cycle wednesday..... I will patiently wait for your response

[nattydisaster]

sounds like superdrol.

it's funny to think about the huge jump from methyl dht, a pretty mild compound, to di methyl dht, which is superdrol, and a powerhouse.

I also think it is interesting that stenbolone (2a methyl 1-test) seems to be unavailable on the black market, yet a new supp company, like so many before, has managed to secure the raws of methyl stenbolone.

superdrol:
2a,17a di methyl dht (5a reduced testosterone)

methyl stenbolone:
2a,17a di methyl 1-test (5a reduced boldenone)

I could see how the two could get mixed up.

we'll just have to see.

methylation makes extreme changes to the molecule and its physiological effects. Superdrol is methylated drostanolone (parent compound in Masteron). People say masteron is weak and ineffective unless you take upwords of 750mg/week IM

Stick a methyl group on it and you get an entirely different effect in the body, and oral bioavailability. Stick a methyl group on something doesnt make a steroid just orally bioavailable and give the same effects....the effects are entirely different.

Dbol is methylated boldenone

As far as the ultradrol goes...should definitely be interesting. Would be nice to see like 10+ detailed logs on it. But the fact it has another methyl group changes its physiological effects greatly.

What is its A:A ? I thought superdrol still had a better ratio

[henryv]

the compound should be a dry mass gainer compound significantly more powerful than m1t (looking at vida's numbers)

According to Vida it's less effective than M1T.

What is its A:A ? I thought superdrol still had a better ratio

[nattydisaster]

So more anabolic and more androgenic on a dose/dose comparison on paper...but a worse Q ratio

[henryv]

So more anabolic and more androgenic on a dose/dose comparison on paper...but a worse Q ratio

Yes sir.

[jbryand101b]

still looks stronger to me.

[mw1]

So more anabolic and more androgenic on a dose/dose comparison on paper...but a worse Q ratio

Yes sir.

IF its what it is supposed to be

[henryv]

still looks stronger to me.

660 is a smaller number than both 910 and 1600. Those are the two anabolic figures given by the two references quoted by Vida for M1T. Bear in mind that the figure of 910 is taken from the same study that also tested methyl sten at the same time (and gave it 660).

[schwellington]

why dont we all just free base this **** and see what happens?

[jbryand101b]

660 is a smaller number than both 910 and 1600. Those are the two anabolic figures given by the two references quoted by Vida for M1T. Bear in mind that the figure of 910 is taken from the same study that also tested methyl sten at the same time (and gave it 660).

oh sht. nvm just realized i was looking at methyl 1-andro-diol.
good thing you posted those numbers, i'd gone on talking about the wrong compound.

let me re pharase it, it looks like it's stronger than methyl 1-ad

you gotta cut me some slack, all i've got is google, and even then, im not using it that much.

[jbryand101b]

IF its what it is supposed to be

what do you mean if? everyone who has released msten has been legit. (according to them)

[jbryand101b]

na, if you free base it, it makes your teeth fall out.

[ryansm]

methylation makes extreme changes to the molecule and its physiological effects. Superdrol is methylated drostanolone (parent compound in Masteron). People say masteron is weak and ineffective unless you take upwords of 750mg/week IM

Stick a methyl group on it and you get an entirely different effect in the body, and oral bioavailability. Stick a methyl group on something doesnt make a steroid just orally bioavailable and give the same effects....the effects are entirely different.

Dbol is methylated boldenone

As far as the ultradrol goes...should definitely be interesting. Would be nice to see like 10+ detailed logs on it. But the fact it has another methyl group changes its physiological effects greatly.

What is its A:A ? I thought superdrol still had a better ratio

Look for my log soon

[TheMeatus101]

i remember people pissing blood with m1t

Damn bruh,never heard about that.

[Rodja]

Look for my log soon

LUCKY!!!

[steppinRazor]

no doubt i'll be buying a few bottles lol..subbed

why dont we all just free base this **** and see what happens?

YOU sir, maybe on to something there..

[BigBlackGuy]

oh sht. nvm just realized i was looking at methyl 1-andro-diol.

And when does that come out

[jbryand101b]

i dont know why it hasn't, dont know if it's banned or not though.

[henryv]

And when does that come out

It's CEL Alpha One.

[xFRACTION]

i dont know why it hasn't, dont know if it's banned or not though.

It's CEL Alpha One.

ooo now thats funny

[jbryand101b]

It's CEL Alpha One.

Correction: the nomenclature is 17a-methyl-1-androstene-3,17-diol as per the COA from RTP, available in this post on PHF: http://www.prohormoneforum.com/proho...tml#post473675 M1T is 17a-methyl-1-androstene-3-one-17b-ol for reference.

ah, i see. post is unavailable though.

Methyl-1-Etiocholenolol-Epietiocholanolone=17a-methyl-1-androstene-3,17-diol

so it is 17a and not 7a? not sure, last I checked on this compound I had seen it being discussed about the methyl.

it makes sense if it's a direct clone of methyl 1 alpha it would be 17.

[henryv]

so it is 17a and not 7a?

Yessir.