Ergopharm 1AD same as AMS and Finaflex 1AD????

  1. Ergopharm 1AD same as AMS and Finaflex 1AD????


    I dont have it in front of me but Finaflex and AMS are 1 andro and the ergopharm is listed as something else... I dont have it in front of me now (was looking at it yesterday) but it was much longer than just 1 andro, ended with diol..

    same stuff?
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  2. no, 1-ad is banned.

    These substances in question convert to 1-ad, then to 1-test, its a two step conversion, as such they must be dosed high, often much higher than recommended on the bottle.

  3. ok so I can get some ergopharm 1ad and its the banned but ultimately better substance.
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  4. ok so

    Ergopharm 1AD = 1-androstene-3beta-17beta-diol

    Ironmag 1Andro= 1-androstene-3b-Ol,17-One

    different compounds?
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  5. ergopharm 1-ad = 1-androstenediol, a direct precursor to 1-testosterone.

    ams 1-ad, and clones = 1-dhea, a direct precursor to 1-androstenedione OR 1-androstenediol. (so it's 2 steps away from 1-testosterone) and is a natural metabolite of dhea.
  6. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by StangBanger View Post
    ok so I can get some ergopharm 1ad and its the banned but ultimately better substance.
    the bigger question is can you really get ergopharm 1-ad or are you going to be ripped off.
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  7. that is a good question... I can get my hands on 2 bottles from someone I know personally who I just found out has a small army of stuff and said I am welcome to purchase what I like from it.
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  8. Never enough
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    hmm check on which dosing and which # of caps he had, because it was released in a few different sizes. Just to make sure you have enough for a good cycle.
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  9. he just told me how much he wants and no way... $200 a bottle... no thanks... thought I was getting a hook up.
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  10. you can find 1-androstenediol for less than 75 dollars online.

  11. If a PH like 1-ad converts to 1-testosterone, why the lowered libido side effect? I thought increased test helps libido. Do true steroids suppress libido as well?

  12. 1-testosterone is not testosterone proper I believe and doesn't interact the same.

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  13. It is one thing organic chem is full of a minute change in chemical composition will change the interactions severely. If you look at designer steroids you will notice that 2 atoms can change everything.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
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  14. I heard from multiple sources that o-chem makes you hate life.
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
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  15. It does for some strange reason.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  16. Yea looks like some UK companies make the diol version, no idea if they are legit

    But original 1-ad had a lot of success, I have some still but won't take it because of the hairloss concerns

  17. the stuff from bismark labs (uk) has worked for some, and been bunk for others.

  18. i found some ergo 1-ad tucked away at the office.

    its old though, expo is 04/07.

    whats the feedback on the hairline for this product at 3 caps ED?
  19. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS
    i found some ergo 1-ad tucked away at the office.

    its old though, expo is 04/07.

    whats the feedback on the hairline for this product at 3 caps ED?
    Lucky devil. It's pretty androgenic, so has some odds of hair loss
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