for a start your analogy is completely flawed. running a cycle is not rocket science, he is not 'jumping over the grand canyon' so to speak, if anything he is just riding the motorcycle down the street to the shops. he clearly has a proper PCT planned etc, so he can 'ride', what mroe does he need?
Indeed. Substituting your endogenous androgens for exogenous ones, upsetting your lipid balance, and generally unbalancing your endocrine system is not rocket science provided you have the requisite knowledge. The fact he weighs so little, is so arrogant, and is so hasty implies that he does not. Further, he has said nothing in this thread which demonstrates otherwise.
So, no, the analogy is not flawed. Leaping into a hormone cycle haphazardly, prior to actually needing it, is not akin to "riding the motorcycle down the street to the shops."
my point is.. you don't no **** about him. you said he has 'progressed so little'. nowhere does he say how long he has been training or how much weight he has gained.. all he says is his height and weight, how do you know he didn't start at 6'4 140 and put on 45 pounds from his base? surely gaining 45 lbs naturally is enough experience to start using phs?
Entirely irrelevant post. The length of his training, in either direction, serves my point and not yours: if he has been training a small amount of time, then steroids are certainly not necessary, and if he has been training a large amount of time, then obviously corrections in diet, nutrition and so forth are needed.
Let me put it bluntly, as the analogy route appears not to be reaching you: 6'4" 185, no matter the length of training, or weight gained so far, indicates that he is nowhere close to requiring steroids. Simple enough, no?
geez people on this forum spend 90% of the time talking about 'genetics' and how only certain people can get rally huge etc etc, but then as soon as it comes to when it's 'time' to start steroids the idea of genetics magically disappears and suddenly everyone has the exact same genetics and should start cycling at exactly the same weight
Now you are being deliberately obtuse, as nobody is suggesting that everybody should, "start cycling at the same weight." I think a general consensus is that a certain amount of knowledge, progress in the gym, understanding and so forth needs to be accrued prior to beginning steroids. What neither you nor the original poster seems to understand is that hormones are not tinker toys, and your posts and his question ("Will I always get the first cycle gains11!?") makes that clear enough.
Beyond all that, I find it comical that you are chastising anybody in this thread who questions the original poster based on his height/weight, yet your post history reveals these gems:
what's your height/weight? you look pretty small for someone who has done 6 ph cycles..
imo your bf% was way too high to start a cycle..
Now, I am just a simple prairie boy, but I can only assume that: a) you have a terrible memory and never recalled questioning somebody in this fashion; or, and more likely, b) you are a hypocrite and are only bothered by these questions now because you yourself cycled far too early. (Evinced by you gaining 22lbs in 6 weeks, which indicates, again,
you were nowhere near the point where you required steroids.)
So, instead of harassing every individual who asks the original poster a relevant question based on the information available to them, how about you sit the rest of this one out.
Yeah, except that wasn't my question..
No, you arrogant little s
hit, it was not. Now that you have exhausted your abilities to point out what is painfully obvious, hopefully you can generate the ability to perceive what is painfully obvious. Namely, that you have no business touching steroids.
