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    Ostarine/MK??


    Just now started reading about this and really just want to know what it's most effective for...

    PCT?
    Standalone?
    Stacked with PH?

    Am I to understand you can run it for 8wks, get the gains of a 4-6wk PH cycle and you don't have to PCT?

    Someone clear up these quick questions for me please.

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    Many people are getting suppressed test levels so it does not seem good for PCT. osta was only non-suppressive at 3/day where you really need at least 10/day to get gains. The best part of the osta is that there aren't as many side effects. Probably no side effects at 12/day. Where some people are reporting gyno symptoms at 25/day so you just throw in an AI with it. I would run it stand alone. I would still run a pct of nolva 20/20/10/10 not to take any chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain19_ View Post
    Many people are getting suppressed test levels so it does not seem good for PCT. osta was only non-suppressive at 3/day where you really need at least 10/day to get gains. The best part of the osta is that there aren't as many side effects. Probably no side effects at 12/day. Where some people are reporting gyno symptoms at 25/day so you just throw in an AI with it. I would run it stand alone.
    Thoughts on ideal cycle length and any preference as to an AI to pair it with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadikated View Post
    Thoughts on ideal cycle length and any preference as to an AI to pair it with?
    The side effects start showing up around 20/day so if you want a side effect free cycle this is what I like:
    osta 10/10/10/15/15
    erase 2 caps per day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain19_ View Post
    The side effects start showing up around 20/day so if you want a side effect free cycle this is what I like:
    osta 10/10/10/15/15
    erase 2 caps per day.
    Sides comparable to?

    And what would expected gains from a proposed cycle like that net someone assuming all other variables are in check (training, diet, sleep, etc...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadikated View Post
    Sides comparable to?

    And what would expected gains from a proposed cycle like that net someone assuming all other variables are in check (training, diet, sleep, etc...)
    side effects at 20+ could be puffy nips, lethargy but different for everyone. expect easily maintainable gain of 10 lbs + good stength gains as well. slow and steady strength gains. If the gains are too slow try increasing the dosage and see what sides you get. different people report different sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain19_ View Post
    Many people are getting suppressed test levels so it does not seem good for PCT. osta was only non-suppressive at 3/day where you really need at least 10/day to get gains. The best part of the osta is that there aren't as many side effects. Probably no side effects at 12/day. Where some people are reporting gyno symptoms at 25/day so you just throw in an AI with it. I would run it stand alone. I would still run a pct of nolva 20/20/10/10 not to take any chances.
    What he said. Those who think there are no side with Ostra are not following the bloods and reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain19_ View Post
    side effects at 20+ could be puffy nips, lethargy but different for everyone. expect easily maintainable gain of 10 lbs + good stength gains as well. slow and steady strength gains. If the gains are too slow try increasing the dosage and see what sides you get. different people report different sides.
    Sounds like <20mg range is where AI is necessary to keep the estro sides under control?

    Seems like a reasonably cheap fix.

    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    What he said. Those who think there are no side with Ostra are not following the bloods and reviews.
    This is something a lot of people overlook IMO whether they're using AAS, PH or more recently SARMS. A lot of people just take a cookie cutter cycle and PCT assuming that if they just take cycle supports they don't need to worry about watching for anything. I haven't always done blood work but more recently I realized the benefit of following your levels to ensure everything is in check.
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    This is something a lot of people overlook IMO whether they're using AAS, PH or more recently SARMS. A lot of people just take a cookie cutter cycle and PCT assuming that if they just take cycle supports they don't need to worry about watching for anything. I haven't always done blood work but more recently I realized the benefit of following your levels to ensure everything is in check.[/QUOTE]

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    I have ran Osta with no PCT and had zero issues or problems.

    Im running a stack of osta and s4 currently
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    it varies from person to person. osta isn't really good for bulking rather preserving muscle mass, ie cutting or pct. my experience with it is it isn't suppressive at all to me. I ran it up as high as 25mg/day. Lethargy was pretty high at 25mg a day though. Sleep was phenomenal though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    it varies from person to person. osta isn't really good for bulking rather preserving muscle mass, ie cutting or pct. my experience with it is it isn't suppressive at all to me. I ran it up as high as 25mg/day. Lethargy was pretty high at 25mg a day though. Sleep was phenomenal though.
    Have u tried bulking with osta?
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    Yeah I have. It was designed to be used by cancer patients to retain muscle mass. Makes sense IMO that it isn't a good bulker.
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    Used osta at 25mg stacked with s4 at 50mg in pct with decent results. Took it at a low dose after having appendectomy...dropped about 10lbs first week after surgery, started osta following week, weight stopped dropping and dropped 2% body fat....Kept some strength. No workouts just light band work, stretching and walking. Think it def helps preserve muscle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by flash89912 View Post
    Used osta at 25mg stacked with s4 at 50mg in pct with decent results. Took it at a low dose after having appendectomy...dropped about 10lbs first week after surgery, started osta following week, weight stopped dropping and dropped 2% body fat....Kept some strength. No workouts just light band work, stretching and walking. Think it def helps preserve muscle...
    Those are pretty high doses bro to be used in PCT....glad that went well. I feel no suppression while on either. Im on the Osta/S4 stack now
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    I am using OSTA currently at 25mg/day, going for 8 weeks while cutting, 0 sides...I have noticed that some people experiencing high sides have bought from questionable sources

    I will be running pct just to be sure, but I got the real stuff and all I'm noticing is fat loss and strength gains, so yea pretty awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydollars View Post
    I am using OSTA currently at 25mg/day, going for 8 weeks while cutting, 0 sides...I have noticed that some people experiencing high sides have bought from questionable sources

    I will be running pct just to be sure, but I got the real stuff and all I'm noticing is fat loss and strength gains, so yea pretty awesome
    Yeah, I have heard that there is some bad sources out there....I went through the most reputable from day one. The banner pops up on here often.
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    there are 2 that pop on the banner here. I've used the cheaper one both times. I've done 3 runs of osta. I love it.
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    How did you follow your osta cycle up? A PCT? If so what did you use?
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    im 22 and my growth plates STILL havent closed. im not looking for them to be closed but would running ostarine cause them to close?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    it varies from person to person. osta isn't really good for bulking rather preserving muscle mass, ie cutting or pct. my experience with it is it isn't suppressive at all to me. I ran it up as high as 25mg/day. Lethargy was pretty high at 25mg a day though. Sleep was phenomenal though.
    I wished I understood what causes lethergy. I have found that even certain natty's cause lethergy. I have yet to find a ratioinal explanation for lethergy even from prople like PA, Dinoiii and other very knowledgable people in the field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadikated View Post
    How did you follow your osta cycle up? A PCT? If so what did you use?
    osta hasn't been suppressive to me. it seems to be hit or miss. I can imagine running it for 6+ weeks it being suppressive though. No pct, just cycled off and waited 6 weeks to go back on. I enjoy being on osta a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2k1s View Post
    osta hasn't been suppressive to me. it seems to be hit or miss. I can imagine running it for 6+ weeks it being suppressive though. No pct, just cycled off and waited 6 weeks to go back on. I enjoy being on osta a lot.
    same here bro....not suppressive at all to me. I think its brand dependent as well. Go with the reputable guys.
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    Recently bought inexpensive. It's 50mg/30ml. The thing is, I've read that the solution is supposed to be clear, but mine has a large quantity of flakes that have precipitated out. Is this normal? If I shake mine up, it looks like one of those little round glass deals with a snowman inside with snow swirling about him. Just want to be sure before I start ingesting this stuff.

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