Nice bro... Can you do Anabolicminds comunity a biggggg favor ?
Get some blood test and see if the absorption rate is as high as IM, I mean I don't mind doing IM but if the absorption of Sub-Q is close or the same why the **** would I go IM !!
Thanks bro, if you do that, we people in here will donate you some money
But I have seen studies showing it to be just as effective. Some doctors will recommend it to their patients who refuse to jap a 1.5" needle into their ass.
To be clear- you all are talking subQ into MUSCLE not just under the skin right? Well, unless you are really lean, how would this hit the muscle?
When I tried it yesterday I was pushing the slin in my thigh more than the needle length so the tip was pushing my skin in more. I was hoping to hit muscle. I am damn sure I did. I have that oil in the thigh feeling today.
Nice to hear. I plan to try this for kicks as well. Will post up afterwards.
PS: I was pretty sure it was on this board where there was a thread floating around here somewhere about pinning test INTO BELLY/THIGH FAT
But isnt a slin needle to short to b injected into quad muscle fully isnt some ginna be in.fat, its why we use 1.5 to make sure all ends up in muscle. If slin works then whats the purpoae of goin 1in into quads?
I agree (Jasen) but these guys mentioned lateral thigh - hardly any "fat" there but I tend to agree, sure seems like there would still be "some" distance to the muscle.
I have seen only few ppl who are not pros that have little bf on thights, mostppl carry fat there aswell which would alone make slins useless
See how I killed a popular theory if slins work then y the fvk have we been using 1in and 1.5in we have just jabbed ourselfs .2in all along
Jasen also aint believe in Aspiration !
What do you think about this J?
Saudi Med J. 2006 Dec;27(12):1843-6
Subcutaneous administration of testosterone. A pilot study report.Al-Futaisi AM, Al-Zakwani IS, Almahrezi AM, Morris D.
Department of Medicine, College of Medicine & Health Sciences, PO Box 35, Postal Code 123, Al-Khod, Sultanate of Oman. Tel. +968 99475401. Tel/Fax. +968 24413419. E-mail: email@example.com.
OBJECTIVE: To investigate the effect of low doses of subcutaneous testosterone in hypogonadal men since the intramuscular route, which is the most widely used form of testosterone replacement therapy, is inconvenient to many patients. METHODS: All men with primary and secondary hypogonadism attending the reproductive endocrine clinic at Royal Victoria Hospital, Monteral, Quebec, Canada, were invited to participate in the study. Subjects were enrolled from January 2002 till December 2002. Patients were asked to self-administer weekly low doses of testosterone enanthate using 0.5 ml insulin syringe. RESULTS: A total of 22 patients were enrolled in the study. The mean trough was 14.48 +/- 3.14 nmol/L and peak total testosterone was 21.65 +/- 7.32 nmol/L. For the free testosterone the average trough was 59.94 +/- 20.60 pmol/L and the peak was 85.17 +/- 32.88 pmol/L. All of the patients delivered testosterone with ease and no local reactions were reported. CONCLUSION: Therapy with weekly subcutaneous testosterone produced serum levels that were within the normal range in 100% of patients for both peak and trough levels. This is the first report, which demonstrated the efficacy of delivering weekly testosterone using this cheap, safe, and less painful subcutaneous route.STABLE TESTOSTERONE LEVELS ACHIEVED
WITH SUBCUTANEOUS TESTOSTERONE
M.B. Greenspan, C.M. Chang
Division of Urology, Department of Surgery, McMaster University,
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Objectives: The preferred technique of androgen replacement
has been intramuscular (IM) testosterone, but wide
variations in testosterone levels are often seen. Subcutaneous
(SC) testosterone injection is a novel approach; however,
its physiological effects are unclear. We therefore investigated
the sustainability of stable testosterone levels using
SC therapy. Patients and methods: Between May and
September 2005, we conducted a small pilot study involving
10 male patients with symptomatic late-onset hypogonadism.
Every patient had been stable on TE 200 mg IM for
41 year. Patients were instructed to self-inject with
testosterone enanthate (TE) 100 mg SC (DELATESTRYL
200 mg/cc, Theramed Corp, Canada) into the anterior
abdomen once weekly. Some patients were down-titrated
to 50 mg based on their total testosterone (T) at 4 weeks.
Informed consent was obtained as SC testosterone administration
is not officially approved by Health Canada. T
levels were measured before and 24 hours after injection
during weeks 1, 2, 3, and 4, and 96 hours after injection
in week 6 and 8. At week 12, PSA, CBC, and T levels
were measured however; the week 12 data are still being
collected. Results: Prior to initiation of SC therapy, T
was 19.14+3.48 nmol/l, hemoglobin 15.8+1.3 g/dl, hematocrit
0.47+0.02, and PSA 1.05+0.65 ng/ml. During
the first 4 weeks, there was a steady increase in
pre-injection T from 19.14+3.48 to 23.89+9.15 nmol/l
(p¼0.1). However, after 8 weeks the post-injection T
(25.77+7.67 nmol/l) remained similar to that of week 1
(27.46+12.91 nmol/l). Patients tolerated this therapy with
no adverse effects. Conclusions: A once-week SC injection
of 50–100 mg of TE appears to achieve sustainable and
stable levels of physiological T. This technique offers
fewer physician visits and the use of smaller quantity of
medication, thus lower costs. However, the long term
clinical and physiological effects of this therapy need further
M.Ed. Ex Phys
Not to mention injecting smaller volumes more frequently is a means of controlling estrogen in itself.
Whacked have you tried it yet?
I have pinned 2 delts, 2 thighs, 1 bicep, and 1 chest so far with the slins since the last one and 1 shot in the thigh with a 1"er. Can you tell which one I like better? lol. So f*cking easy and I am fearless to inject anywhere on my body with slins. I'm gonna try traps and lats as well.
I also am not backloading. Slins draw and shoot on their own.
CM, 2 questions for you here
1- Injecting with SlinPin many times, can you get scar tissues ?
2- how would you do 750mg a week ? how would you separate like 175 x 4 a week ?
Left Delt, Right Delt, Left thigh, Right thigh?