Injectin Steroids Sub-Q, YESS !

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  1. Thanks

    I got that part though

    What I was curious about was if these guys were injecting into muscle (how, unless they are sick-ripped) because there are also threads about going LITERALLY subQ (belly fat).

    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    I know it gets confusing...

    What this thread comes down to pretty much is using an insulin syringe to inject Test oil.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Thanks

    I got that part though

    What I was curious about was if these guys were injecting into muscle (how, unless they are sick-ripped) because there are also threads about going LITERALLY subQ (belly fat).
    oh, I don't know if anyone was talking about straight subQ in the belly. I sure as hell wasn't lol and I wouldn't pin oil there. I would pin in the normal areas for Test without any pinching of the skin.

    When I tried it yesterday I was pushing the slin in my thigh more than the needle length so the tip was pushing my skin in more. I was hoping to hit muscle. I am damn sure I did. I have that oil in the thigh feeling today.
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  3. Nice to hear. I plan to try this for kicks as well. Will post up afterwards.

    PS: I was pretty sure it was on this board where there was a thread floating around here somewhere about pinning test INTO BELLY/THIGH FAT

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Nice to hear. I plan to try this for kicks as well. Will post up afterwards.

    PS: I was pretty sure it was on this board where there was a thread floating around here somewhere about pinning test INTO BELLY/THIGH FAT
    huh that's what I was asking too !!!! I guess CM injects into abs then lol or maybe uses slin for shoulders or areas with low fat

  5. But isnt a slin needle to short to b injected into quad muscle fully isnt some ginna be in.fat, its why we use 1.5 to make sure all ends up in muscle. If slin works then whats the purpoae of goin 1in into quads?
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  6. I agree (Jasen) but these guys mentioned lateral thigh - hardly any "fat" there but I tend to agree, sure seems like there would still be "some" distance to the muscle.

  7. I have seen only few ppl who are not pros that have little bf on thights, mostppl carry fat there aswell which would alone make slins useless

  8. See how I killed a popular theory if slins work then y the fvk have we been using 1in and 1.5in we have just jabbed ourselfs .2in all along

  9. Jasen also aint believe in Aspiration !

  10. What do you think about this J?

    Saudi Med J. 2006 Dec;27(12):1843-6

    Subcutaneous administration of testosterone. A pilot study report.Al-Futaisi AM, Al-Zakwani IS, Almahrezi AM, Morris D.
    Department of Medicine, College of Medicine & Health Sciences, PO Box 35, Postal Code 123, Al-Khod, Sultanate of Oman. Tel. +968 99475401. Tel/Fax. +968 24413419. E-mail: [email protected].

    OBJECTIVE: To investigate the effect of low doses of subcutaneous testosterone in hypogonadal men since the intramuscular route, which is the most widely used form of testosterone replacement therapy, is inconvenient to many patients. METHODS: All men with primary and secondary hypogonadism attending the reproductive endocrine clinic at Royal Victoria Hospital, Monteral, Quebec, Canada, were invited to participate in the study. Subjects were enrolled from January 2002 till December 2002. Patients were asked to self-administer weekly low doses of testosterone enanthate using 0.5 ml insulin syringe. RESULTS: A total of 22 patients were enrolled in the study. The mean trough was 14.48 +/- 3.14 nmol/L and peak total testosterone was 21.65 +/- 7.32 nmol/L. For the free testosterone the average trough was 59.94 +/- 20.60 pmol/L and the peak was 85.17 +/- 32.88 pmol/L. All of the patients delivered testosterone with ease and no local reactions were reported. CONCLUSION: Therapy with weekly subcutaneous testosterone produced serum levels that were within the normal range in 100% of patients for both peak and trough levels. This is the first report, which demonstrated the efficacy of delivering weekly testosterone using this cheap, safe, and less painful subcutaneous route.
    STABLE TESTOSTERONE LEVELS ACHIEVED
    WITH SUBCUTANEOUS TESTOSTERONE
    INJECTIONS
    M.B. Greenspan, C.M. Chang
    Division of Urology, Department of Surgery, McMaster University,
    Hamilton, ON, Canada
    Objectives: The preferred technique of androgen replacement
    has been intramuscular (IM) testosterone, but wide
    variations in testosterone levels are often seen. Subcutaneous
    (SC) testosterone injection is a novel approach; however,
    its physiological effects are unclear. We therefore investigated
    the sustainability of stable testosterone levels using
    SC therapy. Patients and methods: Between May and
    September 2005, we conducted a small pilot study involving
    10 male patients with symptomatic late-onset hypogonadism.
    Every patient had been stable on TE 200 mg IM for
    41 year. Patients were instructed to self-inject with
    testosterone enanthate (TE) 100 mg SC (DELATESTRYL
    200 mg/cc, Theramed Corp, Canada) into the anterior
    abdomen once weekly. Some patients were down-titrated
    to 50 mg based on their total testosterone (T) at 4 weeks.
    Informed consent was obtained as SC testosterone administration
    is not officially approved by Health Canada. T
    levels were measured before and 24 hours after injection
    during weeks 1, 2, 3, and 4, and 96 hours after injection
    in week 6 and 8. At week 12, PSA, CBC, and T levels
    were measured however; the week 12 data are still being
    collected. Results: Prior to initiation of SC therapy, T
    was 19.14+3.48 nmol/l, hemoglobin 15.8+1.3 g/dl, hematocrit
    0.47+0.02, and PSA 1.05+0.65 ng/ml. During
    the first 4 weeks, there was a steady increase in
    pre-injection T from 19.14+3.48 to 23.89+9.15 nmol/l
    (p0.1). However, after 8 weeks the post-injection T
    (25.77+7.67 nmol/l) remained similar to that of week 1
    (27.46+12.91 nmol/l). Patients tolerated this therapy with
    no adverse effects. Conclusions: A once-week SC injection
    of 50–100 mg of TE appears to achieve sustainable and
    stable levels of physiological T. This technique offers
    fewer physician visits and the use of smaller quantity of
    medication, thus lower costs. However, the long term
    clinical and physiological effects of this therapy need further
    evaluation.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    See how I killed a popular theory if slins work then y the fvk have we been using 1in and 1.5in we have just jabbed ourselfs .2in all along
    All you did was show that you didn't bother to research the topic. If anything, all the subQ injection will do is to prolong the effects since it will take slightly longer to cleave the ester. This is medical information based off of empricial evidence. That holds a little bit more weight than your 15s extrapolation. Also, if you don't have any sites that can be pinned with a 1/2" slin pin, then you need to get off your ass and do some more cardio. Delts, pecs, triceps, lateral thighs, medial thighs, etc. All of these areas should have very little fat if our actually have some muscle and aren't just using "bulking" as an excuse to be fat.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  12. Not to mention injecting smaller volumes more frequently is a means of controlling estrogen in itself.

    Whacked have you tried it yet?

    I have pinned 2 delts, 2 thighs, 1 bicep, and 1 chest so far with the slins since the last one and 1 shot in the thigh with a 1"er. Can you tell which one I like better? lol. So f*cking easy and I am fearless to inject anywhere on my body with slins. I'm gonna try traps and lats as well.

    I also am not backloading. Slins draw and shoot on their own.

  13. CM, 2 questions for you here

    1- Injecting with SlinPin many times, can you get scar tissues ?

    2- how would you do 750mg a week ? how would you separate like 175 x 4 a week ?
    Left Delt, Right Delt, Left thigh, Right thigh?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Markusrulezzz View Post
    CM, 2 questions for you here

    1- Injecting with SlinPin many times, can you get scar tissues ?
    Very unlikely. If you check out the anti-aging section here there are some guys who do their TRT using slins just so they do not get scar tissue as they are pinning for life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusrulezzz View Post
    2- how would you do 750mg a week ? how would you separate like 175 x 4 a week ?
    Left Delt, Right Delt, Left thigh, Right thigh?
    How is your Test dosed? 200mg/ml, 250mg/ml, 300mg/ml, or 350mg/ml?

  15. 250/ml

    and wouldn't the oil come out ???

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Markusrulezzz View Post
    250/ml

    and wouldn't the oil come out ???
    I suggest you get 28g 1cc slins. You can do:

    1) .75cc shots 4x a week
    2) .6cc shots 5x a week
    etc etc...

    There are so many easy possible injection sites with slins I don't even mind doing it ED. And I am not shooting in the belly lol. I plan to shoot everywhere shown on here http://spotinjections.com/ except glutes and calf. Already done chest, bi's, delts, and thighs. PS if you have never injected into a certain muscle expect it to be soar the next day because the muscle is not use to the volume added to it. It will go away after 1-2 injections in the same spot.

    Up to you how you want to divide 3cc/per week. You can even do 1cc with a bigger needle and 2cc with slins. Many options.

    Oil does not come out at all for me but my volume injected is smaller than yours because I'm doing 500mg/week and my Test is 350mg/ml. Just keep the slin injected for 10 seconds after the oil is out of the syringe and press hard with alcohol swab on injection site and no oil should come out.

  17. so technically if slin is possible theres no.need.to.go 1in in to quad muscle?

  18. Im confused on something still, if I wanted to inject 500mg a wk for instance how would I go about that? A little each day in a diff.muscle? Are there.any bloods to.prove this theory?

  19. No - I wussed out. LOL

    I didnt want to waste my weekly Test Inject as I wasnt convinced
    the 1/2" would work to get the beloved Test in my system LOL

    Keep me posted =- please!

    Since I will be an "injector for life"; the ramifications of using slin pins vs swords (lol) is huge!

    PS: Nice studies posted


    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    Whacked have you tried it yet?

    I have pinned 2 delts, 2 thighs, 1 bicep, and 1 chest so far with the slins since the last one and 1 shot in the thigh with a 1"er. Can you tell which one I like better? lol. So f*cking easy and I am fearless to inject anywhere on my body with slins. I'm gonna try traps and lats as well.

    I also am not backloading. Slins draw and shoot on their own.

  20. Yeah I am farrrrr from convinced as wellit for starters id.like to.see.some bloods with a control and non.control.group

  21. How does an interesting thread like this not spark interest????

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    How does an interesting thread like this not spark interest????
    It's like I said in my first post, this is really old information.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  23. Well I guess I will update you guys since this was bumped...

    Finishing week 3 of Test E 350mg/ml injected 4x a week @ .35cc to hit 500mg/week rotating delts and chest. I really like those spots.

    I am a horn dog as expected and ugly women have become sexy in my eyes.

    I am weighing in at 199 (+9 lbs).

    Pumps are getting really good.

    Size is starting to come on. I have the ol "You got bigger!!" comments coming more often.

    Have not needed an AI.

    I have my vacation coming in 3 weeks so I also added Katanadrol v2 (Orastan A) yesterday at 350mg to give some winny like effects.

    It's safe to say I am not doing anymore IM injections unless I want lots of volume injected at one time.

  24. so wait. wait. I could inject 350mgs test c subq (NOT INTO MUSCLE)?

    im assuming this would work for mast p
    npp
    tren etc?


    interesting

    i dont mind IM, but SUbq is easier....waiting for a response


    subdizzle mah nizzles
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html
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