Is tren a stronger compound then superdrol?
- 04-27-2011, 04:32 AM
- 04-27-2011, 08:29 AM
- 04-27-2011, 10:00 AM
It looks like you're asking about the PH. And it's honestly hard to say, because they're different compounds. SD is going to give potential for more size and gains and tren would give a lot of strength. Even though I think this is kind of like comparing apples to oranges, I'd say SD.Psalm 34:10 - "The lions may grow weak and hungry, but those who seek the Lord lack no good thing."
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04-27-2011, 10:05 AM
04-27-2011, 12:18 PM
Thats up the individual and dosing. Since tren is non meth ive seen people run it up to 150mg, at that dose you can lift a house.
But 30mg of SD is pretty fun too, have also read about guys running SD at 40mg which is just dumb IMO.
Lots of stuff has to be taken int account if your going to try and say ones better than the other. sh!t why not stack them?
04-29-2011, 08:59 PM
I think the sides of SD vs. Tren need to be considered in this debate, not just the benefits. You can run long cycles of Tren at high doses. Anything more than 4 weeks of SD at a moderate dose and you risk doing serious harm to your body.
04-29-2011, 09:12 PM
04-29-2011, 09:14 PM
damnit i thought he meant actual trenbole- was like duh, no brainer
ehh i think dienolone is more suited towards mass/strength wheras SD is strength, although SD does yield weight gain, alot is glycogen but it will still put on quality muscle provided diet/training/rest are in check......but its so harsh i will never use it again,
04-29-2011, 10:54 PM
im using both in my aas cycle. just coming off 4 weeks dbol, gonna run a small dose 3 week SD, and finish it with Oral tren, the real ****. with test E as a 10 week base. gains...nom nom nom nom
04-29-2011, 10:57 PM
SD is good for Halloween. You could easily dress up as Bart Simpson.
04-29-2011, 11:00 PM
04-29-2011, 11:07 PM
04-29-2011, 11:14 PM
04-29-2011, 11:20 PM
People will do what they want regardless of the risks. They don't care about the risks till they are sitting in the hospital bed wondering if it was really worth it. They think because they "feel fine" then they are fine. Little do they know whats really going inside there body and by the time the damage starts to show on the outside, its literally too late to do anything. The damage will have already been done.
04-29-2011, 11:21 PM
4 weeks is not enough to stablize liver enzymes. And oral tren is VERY hepatoxic, do i think you will get jaundice? no, but your damn sure racking your body, and very very many people misunderstand what oral tren is best suited for
04-29-2011, 11:22 PM
I just found out that trenazone is also very hepatoxic. Don't be fooled that it may not be because its a trans-dermal. You can still have liver problems without being Jaundice.
04-29-2011, 11:28 PM
04-29-2011, 11:29 PM
04-29-2011, 11:32 PM
04-30-2011, 01:51 AM
04-30-2011, 05:24 AM
so trenazone is basicly as toxic as mythelated steroids, this low toxicity is bull crap? Someone fill me in..
04-30-2011, 07:18 AM
04-30-2011, 11:30 AM
my gains strength gains were decent, i was using it for a cut, so most of my time went into cardio and light weight high reps.
however, there is blood work posted on PHF that shows it isnt bad on the liver. but everyone reacts differently you know.
04-30-2011, 12:58 PM
Tren isnt a meth so it technically shouldnt be bad on your liver but it is tough on BP, and very prone to give off gyno related sides. Shutdown is about equal to sd, a serm is needed during pct
04-30-2011, 04:53 PM
04-30-2011, 05:03 PM
T-bone what was your diet like and what support supps did you use? I saw the bloodwork on phf but at the same time know that they delete negative logs about their products.
04-30-2011, 05:12 PM
The Metabolic Diet. I was trying to cut down/lose fat but ended up adding a little extra calories and gaining strength while leaning out only slightly. Only support supplement I took was Liver Juice by Primordial performance. Other regular supplements were Krill Oil, protein, creapure, multi-vitamin, PES Shift, and Erase at 1 cap a day.
04-30-2011, 05:54 PM
04-30-2011, 09:00 PM
04-30-2011, 09:08 PM
I'm curious to see if anyone else has seen that kind of elevation w/ trenazone.
04-30-2011, 09:24 PM
04-30-2011, 09:31 PM
Thx for sharing your blood work man and your experience its helped me out alot. Im wondering though because my diet will be nearly 2000 calories a day (out of 3000) of good carbs if that will make a difference with my experience. Ultimately because of you sharing your experience though I'm taking Trenazone much more seriously and will hopefully not encounter the same problems at the end of my cycle.
04-30-2011, 09:37 PM
The Bad cholesterol hike and good cholesterol drop is kind of nuts. I did get some serious strength gains but with the drastic changes in health in such a short period its not worth it for me to take it anymore.
04-30-2011, 10:46 PM
04-30-2011, 10:53 PM
just don't underestimate it. Thats why I added liver longer, and extra hawthorne berry in addition to cycle assist among other things lol.
05-01-2011, 12:48 AM
05-01-2011, 02:30 AM
your LDL raised to 260's IN FOUR WEEKS?!
this **** is killer then. My ldl didnt raise that high on injectable's till the 5th month
05-01-2011, 03:15 PM
05-01-2011, 05:20 PM
Wow, I get about the same LDL, HDL numbers after running SD. I love tren. But it hates my nipples. And I don't even think about sex for about 2 to 3 months after cycle. Not too cool if you are married to a nympho like my wife. My bp can get to over 150/80 on some days. I get the most weight gain from SD, but it makes me feel like hell by the end of the second week. At 44, I have had to swear these two off. I miss the gains from them, but definetly not the sides
05-01-2011, 05:43 PM
So, to stay on topic, is Tren stronger than Sd? I have pulsed Sd and spawn and I have found that Spawn leaned me out more and Sd gave me wicked pumps. Not sure if this helps answer the question since there is a debate as to whether Spawn had epi in it or phera. I say Epi since I leaned out beatifully. Both gave nice strength although SD gave me noticeable results even pulsed at 10 mgs twice a week. So based on this, i would say SD is stronger.
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