Epi 2a3a by Vital Labs anyone had experience with this product?
- 04-26-2011, 02:33 PM
- 04-28-2011, 01:47 PM
- 05-02-2011, 06:52 PM
i just found this too. im kinda skeptical of it though because the site its on it has tons of products but they are all out of stock and say to by that instead
05-27-2011, 01:40 PM
Bump. I still can't find any logs/review about Vital Labs Epistane.
Vital labs Epi is listed as: 2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol
VS Havoc by RPN which is listed as: 2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol
I don't know enough about the structural difference between two, but as you can see they are not identical compounds.
(unless methyletioallocholano = methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol?)
Can anyone explain the difference between the two? Is one better than the other? ...Thanks!
05-27-2011, 02:10 PM
Finally found something...
After searching over all the pro hormone forums I finally found something about the compound in vital labs epi! (sorry can't post a direct link to sed forum)
2a, 3a-Epithio-17a-Methyletioallocholanol does not in fact = 2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androst-17b-ol. There is a slight dif. but it does not seem to be anything too significant. so in essence it is the same compound. (sorry, still don't know the exact dif. in the structure.. not a chemist lol)
However, the good news is Epistane by Vital labs is actually the identical compound as Hemaguno by Spectra Force Research. both chains are EXACTLY the same and end with Methyletioallocholanol.
There are many logs about Hemaguno on the net. (it looks like it was discontinued back in '08) so basically this is just Hemaguno back from the dead! ...BTW Hemaguno used to cost $89.99 a bottle before it was discontinued!!
After briefly reading a few reviews about Hemaguno, it looks like many people did in fact say they saw better gains from Hemaguno vs havoc. so this leads me to believe that since hemaguno> havoc .... vital labs epi > havoc!
Either way, it should be atleast AS GOOD as havoc if not better. So, I'm on board, I'm stocking up today!
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