BD vs Terumo

morfiend · Jul 16, 2004

25g 1inch

BD's are so much better!! I couldn't even feel it going in.. the Terumo's always gave me that crappy pinching feeling, sometimes worse than other times.

Pay the extra dollar or so and get the BD's.

Juiceman · Jul 16, 2004

morfiend said:
25g 1inch

BD's are so much better!! I couldn't even feel it going in.. the Terumo's always gave me that crappy pinching feeling, sometimes worse than other times.

Pay the extra dollar or so and get the BD's.

I have been using the Terumo's and haven't really had a problem with them although it seems that 1 out of every 5 or so seem to pinch and go in harder than the regular smooth shots that you can't feel a thing.

Anyone else have a preference?

DR.D · Jul 16, 2004

The reg BD's have the same inconsistancy issues I think, just every 1/10 maybe instead. But the high doller BD extra sharps are sweet. Almost too sharp. The only pain is in the wallet with those.

Slowpain · Jul 16, 2004

Are terumo pinz interchangeable with BD syringes? I mean can I use terumo pinz in a BD syringe?

DR.D · Jul 17, 2004

Slowpain said:
Are terumo pinz interchangeable with BD syringes? I mean can I use terumo pinz in a BD syringe?

Yes. Mix and match :thumbsup:

Bean · Jul 17, 2004

uhhh i always had better luck with terumo sticks... i dunno, BDs always felt more uncomfortable

and yes BD and terumo needles are swappable

morfiend · Jul 17, 2004

DR.D said:
The reg BD's have the same inconsistancy issues I think, just every 1/10 maybe instead. But the high doller BD extra sharps are sweet. Almost too sharp. The only pain is in the wallet with those.

I'd like to check these out, GPZ services doesn't carry them? I found a site, but you have to order like 1,000 at once. Know any sites?

The pharmacies around here are pains in the ass. Even for an insulin syringe, they ask for a prescription/ID.

I'm really surprised people don't think BD's are that much better than terumo. I DID only use one so far, but I didn't even feel it going in. I was amazed to see the needle going in without feeling anything.. some of the terumo i've used I really had to push down hard to get it into the muscle, the BD just pierced through like butter.

DR.D · Jul 17, 2004

morfiend said:
I'd like to check these out, GPZ services doesn't carry them? I found a site, but you have to order like 1,000 at once. Know any sites?

The pharmacies around here are pains in the ass. Even for an insulin syringe, they ask for a prescription/ID.

I'm really surprised people don't think BD's are that much better than terumo. I DID only use one so far, but I didn't even feel it going in. I was amazed to see the needle going in without feeling anything.. some of the terumo i've used I really had to push down hard to get it into the muscle, the BD just pierced through like butter.

Monoject, not bad and cheap:
http://www.careexpress.com/products.asp?CATEGORY_ID=122&PARENT_ID=17&COMBINE=250032

BD PrecisionGlide Needle with New X3Point:
http://www.medicalmailorder.com/BDneedlesonly.html

Draw up with the cheap ones and deliver w/ the sharper ones

JerseyDevil · Jul 18, 2004

morfiend said:
I'd like to check these out, GPZ services doesn't carry them? I found a site, but you have to order like 1,000 at once. Know any sites?

GPZ carries BD, and they are only .50 cents more then Terumo. But they only offer syringe + needle, and not needles only. In otherwords, you can order 25 BD 3cc syringes fitted with 25g, 1" pins. I'd do that, and get the Terumo 20g, 1-1/2" pins for drawing. Yes, they are interchangable.

morfiend · Jul 18, 2004

JerseyDevil said:
GPZ carries BD, and they are only .50 cents more then Terumo. But they only offer syringe + needle, and not needles only. In otherwords, you can order 25 BD 3cc syringes fitted with 25g, 1" pins. I'd do that, and get the Terumo 20g, 1-1/2" pins for drawing. Yes, they are interchangable.

Yeah, I know about GPZ carrying BD.. DR.D was talking about some special super-expensive BD needle, tho.

What you said is exactly what I'm doing, and it's working great...

oh, NEVER screw on a needle too tight! I hit a nerve and had to replace the needle, but couldn't because it was stuck on there, I tried everything to get that fucker off.. pliers, the whole 9 yards.. I ended up just putting the oil back into a vial and repulling it up with another syringe.. oh well

DUFF · Jul 27, 2004

Does bd not make a 23 1.5 ?

DR.D · Jul 27, 2004

DUFF said:
Does bd not make a 23 1.5 ?

Yes they do, in a 3ml latex free. It's one of my fav multi-purpose

bioman · Jul 27, 2004

Pinning for the first time ever so I've only used Terumos so far. I have noticed a dull tip here and there as well as some bruising every few injects. Its nothing that would absolutely keep me from using Terumo again.

DUFF · Jul 28, 2004

Can i ask where i can get some 23 1.5's?

DR.D · Jul 28, 2004

DUFF said:
Can i ask where i can get some 23 1.5's?

I've never actually tried these guys, but have been meaning too, somebody else might know about them:
http://www.gearboxinc.com/product_info.php?products_id=42&osCsid=d16dab59008806aae80e9a12194a49c8
I find them at a local pharm. (Target), or just look around the internet

DUFF · Jul 28, 2004

Thanks but i meant bd needles.

Matthew D · Jul 28, 2004

I thought that Getpinz still had the BD's..

sage · Jul 29, 2004

Matthew D said:
I thought that Getpinz still had the BD's..

They do but on just a few gauges and length. Btw, GPinz gets my nod.
Sage

bioman · Jul 29, 2004

Me too, GPZ has some great service and one stop shopping.

Got a dull-ass terumo last night for a SQ hcg inject..ouch!

DR.D · Jul 29, 2004

bioman said:
Me too, GPZ has some great service and one stop shopping.

Got a dull-ass terumo last night for a SQ hcg inject..ouch!

I second that, GPZ has been fast and reliable every time I used them.

Juiceman · Jul 29, 2004

bioman said:
Me too, GPZ has some great service and one stop shopping.

Got a dull-ass terumo last night for a SQ hcg inject..ouch!

I got two dull ones this week. Usually when I do glute shots they go in without even knowing but this week both shots I had to push HARD to get them in and I could definately feel a pinch. Can't wait till my next inject to see what I get, kinda makes it interesting!

toastynoodles · Jul 30, 2004

morfiend said:
25g 1inch

BD's are so much better!! I couldn't even feel it going in.. the Terumo's always gave me that crappy pinching feeling, sometimes worse than other times.

Pay the extra dollar or so and get the BD's.

they only .17 our $4.25 for 25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!at wal-mart!!!!

toastynoodles · Jul 30, 2004

DUFF said:
Can i ask where i can get some 23 1.5's?

bd don't make a 23g 1.5!!!!!!!!1

Matthew D · Jul 30, 2004

They did.. must be something new then

DR.D · Jul 31, 2004

BD does make 23g 1.5" they come in a white pack w/ blue-green lettering and the points are the same color. The ref# is 309589 and they are the latex-free thin wall 3cc. If you can't find online or at the pharm, just ask the pharm to order a box or 2 for you. Take the ref# with you and say you take HRT if they ask, but I've never been asked any questions trying to obtain IM syringes. They usually come in 3-6 days this way.

bioman · Jul 31, 2004

D's the man. Good info sir!

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