Poll: m5aa

M5aa poll

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  1. the clonidine knocks my ass out too. its real good to have around when you can't go to sleep


    I also got a question about the 3 alpha. 1fast sells 3 alpha and 3 beta, and it says there about the same on the sight. Beta is only 1 dollar a gram. You think this stuff will be about the same as the alpha???? I haven't heard any feedback about 3 BETA....
    Last edited by upINtheLBC; 08-26-2004 at 11:47 PM.


  2. [QUOTE=Rogue Drone]I'm very disaapointed with Custom's M5 at 100mgs. 10 days of 3 a day split dosing with 20mgs of M4OHN feels like M4OHN alone, no apparent effect from the M5aa.QUOTE]
    If I remember right you where taking around 166mg of 3-alpha transdermal a day right? If you estimate the absorbtion rate of the Tgel it was in at about 30% thats close to 50mg of 3alpha getting into your system, which with a 43% conversion rate equals roughly 21mg of DHT. Thats alot more active horomone in your body then 100mg of M5. That could also be the reason why you didn't notice anything off the M5, it was actually a step down in the dosage.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!


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  3. [QUOTE=prld2gr8ns]
    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
    I'm very disaapointed with Custom's M5 at 100mgs. 10 days of 3 a day split dosing with 20mgs of M4OHN feels like M4OHN alone, no apparent effect from the M5aa.QUOTE]
    If I remember right you where taking around 166mg of 3-alpha transdermal a day right? If you estimate the absorbtion rate of the Tgel it was in at about 30% thats close to 50mg of 3alpha getting into your system, which with a 43% conversion rate equals roughly 21mg of DHT. Thats alot more active horomone in your body then 100mg of M5. That could also be the reason why you didn't notice anything off the M5, it was actually a step down in the dosage.
    21 mg of DHT :O I think I would be as bald as a porn star's snatch by the end of a cycle like that. And my prostate would hate me as well.

  4. If I'm not mistaken M5 has a conversion rate of 9-10%, similar to 3Beta. I could be wrong though.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  5. I hope you find something out, it could be very interesting.
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  6. Yeah, let us know anything you come up with man. I'm pretty much doing the exact same cycle as you are except in reverse order, I started off with M5 working up to 100mg/day, and as of tommorrow will be switching to 150mg/day trans 3-alpha.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  7. that looks good to me prld, and that's what I had hoped to do to finish the last 2 weeks of my cycle. I've been using 36mg M4OHN and 100mg M5AA/day, and I was gonna use 150mg of 3-alpha t/d instead of the M5. I just realized that all I have is 3-beta, which is too bad. I'm gonna try it, I'll just have to use about 500mg instead. We'll see how it goes...

  8. Any increased shedding or other side effects from the DHT with these high dose cycles?

  9. With the M5 at 100mg I didn't notice anything negative except for the damned oily skin, it'll be my first time using a t/d 3alpha so I'll let you know how that turns out in a bit.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  10. I have no problems to report from 100mg of M5 either.

  11. I get a little breakout using 40mg preW/O, seems like the only overt side

  12. I've been using 50mg pre-workout and haven't noticed very much. I'm going to up the dose, and eventually get to 100mg.

  13. Try splliting your dose over four to five times a day. I really had much better effects dosing with this regimen.

  14. I have bee nhearing that you get much better strength increases if administered more frequently(4-5x a day) although I'm, not sure why, as since its a methyl shouldn't it have a longer 1/2 life?

    40mg pre workout and 3-4 more 20mg doses throughout the day possibly. maybe one in the middle of the night also.

    Any idea how liver toxic M5 is yet?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by meathead1987
    I have bee nhearing that you get much better strength increases if administered more frequently(4-5x a day) although I'm, not sure why, as since its a methyl shouldn't it have a longer 1/2 life?

    ?
    MOHN is the same way, so being a methyl doesn't mean it has a long 1/2 life.... just better oral availability

  16. I know this sounds stupid... but it looks like the molecular weight is around 370. If that's true, could you use a transdermal for the purpose of a slow release dosage? (I understand that won't improve the bioavailability of a methyl).

  17. Yes it could.

    You would be cutting urself short on the bioavailability though.

    @ 370, I would think it'd have an absorbtion rate of ~ 30%

    compared to ~100% oral.

  18. I just ran m5aa as a go between for two m1t cycles. It looked like
    this.

    weeks 1&2 10mg m1t, 200mg 4ad trans
    weeks 3&4 60mg m5aa, 200mg 4ad trans
    weeks 5&6 15mg m1t, 200mg 4ad trans

    It really helped to keep those pumps through the two week off period,
    and the anti estrogen effects combated the 4ad. All in all the cycle
    yeilded about 12lbs gain, 10 of which i still have post pct. I can say I
    still gained alot in those two weeks, but that could have still been
    the m1t.

  19. Just started my m5aa cycle yesterday, which I\'m running with clen for 2wks. Also running 4ad (500mg/day trans.)which I started a week prior, since it takes time to kick in. I dosed 20mg m5aa when i woke up. Then 40mg about 5:30pm since I get out of work at 6pm and workout about 6:30pm. When upping the dose, I\'m wondering if I should add 20mg mid day or add 20mg pre-workout???? Let me know what you guys think.

  20. I would wait, and see how you like the 60mgs first. Give it a week, since it's so fast acting, and then evaluate.


  21. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    I would wait, and see how you like the 60mgs first. Give it a week, since it\'s so fast acting, and then evaluate.
    Ok, cool. I\'ll try 60mg for a wk. Should i keep dose as is? and how long does one usually run m5aa cycles? 2-4wks? Thanks.

  22. You could try ten in the morning, and then another ten mid-day or so. Remember that half-life is around three hours. 2-4 weeks is usual, but I have seen some run it for 6. I would run it with the 4-ad the entire time.


  23. Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    You could try ten in the morning, and then another ten mid-day or so. Remember that half-life is around three hours. 2-4 weeks is usual, but I have seen some run it for 6. I would run it with the 4-ad the entire time.
    yeah, I\'m running the 4ad the whole time. Thing is I have Omega 20mg caps. So I was wondering if 20mg 3x day or 20mg am then 40mg pre-wo would be better.

  24. Personally I already have the focus required to have optimal workouts, so I would go with three doses. If you are looking for that extra kick, then bump it to 80 that way you have the largest dose for pre-workout. Just play with it. I would still stick with the 60 for a week, and then decide.


  25. M5AA makes my muscles much more dense and rock hard at just 30mgs preworkout. I like it.
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