Poll: m5aa

M5aa poll

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  1. how do you guys use the powder. are you capping it or suspending it in oil or what?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by mac_dad6
    how do you guys use the powder. are you capping it or suspending it in oil or what?
    You can buy the M5 capped already..

    Check out custom's site, made by Omega Sports..
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bigpetefox
    I liked the M5 because it kicked in faster, and the pumps were immediate. I liked it better than 5aa cyp, simply because it kicks in fast and no needles..
    That's cool, I was debating on a 5 cyp or M5 run to finish off the summer. Seeing as how I already have some M5 I think I'm sold on my next cycle.

  4. yea i know you can buy it precapped but it's more expensive

  5. I just use a weight scale I purchased at ebay, measures to .01grams or at least 10mg. I never used the the oil or capping method as I've heard the capping makes a mess and the oil solution is a bitch to do.
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  6. so what do you do? just mix it in some oj or something

  7. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns
    I just use a weight scale I purchased at ebay, measures to .01grams or at least 10mg. I never used the the oil or capping method as I've heard the capping makes a mess and the oil solution is a bitch to do.
    It's still better to cap or at least measure out higher doses. Think about it, your scale rounds off to 2 digits, so you could be getting 5mg or 14mg and it would read 0.01g either way. Caps are easy and convenient once you get the hang, but it doesn't save a lot of money unless you start capping everything. Gel caps cost money too, plus the time to do it. You cound weight out 100mg, divide it into roughly 10 equal piles, and that reduces your error to about + or - 1mg.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by mac_dad6
    so what do you do? just mix it in some oj or something
    Yeah, just toss it in some juice, or your protein shake, hell sometimes I just suck it up thru a straw before a workout. Eitherway would work fine. Dr. D you have a sound point about the scale method, but with M5 I usually dose around 30-40mg for PWO, so I know I'm getting at least 25, with this compound its not a big deal. The divide and conquer method is a good idea though, may have to try it. I would never and I repeat never us this method for M1T powder unless I had a more expensive elaborate scale.

  9. i tried it at 20mg ed i didnt get anything from it!!

  10. The problem with a solution/suspension is that you'll have a hell of a time getting more than 5mg./ml in solution, meaning you need to suck down over 10ml a day...20 for me. I don't like drinking that much Olive Oil or PEG or anything! I might cap @ a high dose (30mg.)...even if it's messy, the powder is so cheap now. I could toss in some NAC and call it good.

    In fact, if anyone would be interested, I would sell 30mg. caps with NAC for a good price. That way, you'd only have to pop 3 a day.

  11. do u have to take nolavdex or some kinda pct after M5aa?

  12. I've said this in many threads, but might as well repeat it. There is no point in dissolving M5AA. Just get a small (SMALL) spoon, and draw out a packed flat spoonful by 'wiping' against the side of the container. ... Dump ten loads onto a reasonably accurate scale (0.01g/10mg) and divide by ten. Voila, said spoon = (x)mg.

    As for the need for PCT after M5AA, I am curious about how suppressive it is. I would think it is not very suppressive at all, unless there is some feedback to the HPTA from DHT related substances. Does anyone know?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Strateg0s
    As for the need for PCT after M5AA, I am curious about how suppressive it is. I would think it is not very suppressive at all, unless there is some feedback to the HPTA from DHT related substances. Does anyone know?
    DHT is one of the worst actually, and m5aa binds well to carrier globins and AR. I'd guess it's probably pretty bad too, but I don't feel the need to use it daily and find out. Some others are, but I have not heard updates in awhile.

  14. For me the PCT wasn't bad at all, suppressiveness of a 4wk cycle(40mg/day) was barely noticable. But because you don't feel suppressed doesn't mean your not.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  15. I used nolva for PCT, 60mg ED for a week, 40mg ED 2wks, 20mg ED last week. I'll be back on 100mg ED for my show, if I do it..

  16. You love it that much huh BigPete. How far out from your show do you plan on starting it.(If you do it.)
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  17. That's interesting. I ran Custom's m5, and had great results at 100mgs a day. I could see that the 3 alpha is the culprit here.

  18. Yeah, but 100mg/d should have at least produced noticable hardening if nothing else

  19. check out cardinal's log, may have to do with when you are taking it.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
    Maybe I know what's going on here. Pregnenelone, started about 10 days ago, is converting to Progesterone, a known DHT blocker?

    I would say, based on my previous experience with M4OHN, that the Nandralone is working, but the DHT effects felt on 3 alpha are gone.

    Another possibility is the poor quanity and quality of sleep, don't know if this is cause or effect. M4OHN previously reduced my sleep quantity, but quality stayed good, but now my sleep is very poor, maybe 5 hours of mind racing.
    RD, Be a real man and take a tranquilizer! Actually, I never could sleep much either, and certain things make it necessary to use something to sleep. 5mg Ambien is the old stand-by, but clonidine works might fine too. I started experimenting w/ Preg @ 50mg BID, based on your suggestion (using the BAC source) and haven't noticed any memory improvement yet, but it's far cleaner than DHEA. You could have a point about the DHT antagonism, but I still say that 100mg/d of M5 should make you harder no matter. Maybe you should clean out and rechallenge the M5 solo to narrow the possibilities and validate the quality of the source.

  21. the clonidine knocks my ass out too. its real good to have around when you can't go to sleep


    I also got a question about the 3 alpha. 1fast sells 3 alpha and 3 beta, and it says there about the same on the sight. Beta is only 1 dollar a gram. You think this stuff will be about the same as the alpha???? I haven't heard any feedback about 3 BETA....
    Last edited by upINtheLBC; 08-27-2004 at 12:47 AM.

  22. [QUOTE=Rogue Drone]I'm very disaapointed with Custom's M5 at 100mgs. 10 days of 3 a day split dosing with 20mgs of M4OHN feels like M4OHN alone, no apparent effect from the M5aa.QUOTE]
    If I remember right you where taking around 166mg of 3-alpha transdermal a day right? If you estimate the absorbtion rate of the Tgel it was in at about 30% thats close to 50mg of 3alpha getting into your system, which with a 43% conversion rate equals roughly 21mg of DHT. Thats alot more active horomone in your body then 100mg of M5. That could also be the reason why you didn't notice anything off the M5, it was actually a step down in the dosage.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  23. [QUOTE=prld2gr8ns]
    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone
    I'm very disaapointed with Custom's M5 at 100mgs. 10 days of 3 a day split dosing with 20mgs of M4OHN feels like M4OHN alone, no apparent effect from the M5aa.QUOTE]
    If I remember right you where taking around 166mg of 3-alpha transdermal a day right? If you estimate the absorbtion rate of the Tgel it was in at about 30% thats close to 50mg of 3alpha getting into your system, which with a 43% conversion rate equals roughly 21mg of DHT. Thats alot more active horomone in your body then 100mg of M5. That could also be the reason why you didn't notice anything off the M5, it was actually a step down in the dosage.
    21 mg of DHT :O I think I would be as bald as a porn star's snatch by the end of a cycle like that. And my prostate would hate me as well.

  24. If I'm not mistaken M5 has a conversion rate of 9-10%, similar to 3Beta. I could be wrong though.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  25. I hope you find something out, it could be very interesting.

  26. Yeah, let us know anything you come up with man. I'm pretty much doing the exact same cycle as you are except in reverse order, I started off with M5 working up to 100mg/day, and as of tommorrow will be switching to 150mg/day trans 3-alpha.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  27. that looks good to me prld, and that's what I had hoped to do to finish the last 2 weeks of my cycle. I've been using 36mg M4OHN and 100mg M5AA/day, and I was gonna use 150mg of 3-alpha t/d instead of the M5. I just realized that all I have is 3-beta, which is too bad. I'm gonna try it, I'll just have to use about 500mg instead. We'll see how it goes...

  28. Any increased shedding or other side effects from the DHT with these high dose cycles?

  29. With the M5 at 100mg I didn't notice anything negative except for the damned oily skin, it'll be my first time using a t/d 3alpha so I'll let you know how that turns out in a bit.
    ~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!



  30. I have no problems to report from 100mg of M5 either.
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