P.C.T help

[HENCHOS]

firstly my stats
gender male
(100 % all Natural at the momment)
height 6ft 1.8
weight 16.1st, 101kg, 224lbs
Bodyfat 13%
age 26
Chest 49.5 "
Arms 18 "
Bench 155kg 341.7 lbs (x2 NO SPOT)
Squat 180kg 396 .8 lbs (x6-8 NO SPOT)
Deadlift 220kg 485 lbs obviously no spot

been weight training consistanly 3-4 years blessed with mesomorphic genetics
My goal is 15-20 lbs of tight quality lean mass
bodyfat currently 13% want it down to 8%
weight 224 lbs ideal weight 245 lbs but lean mass

Diet on cycle (3500cl 400g protien 280 carbs 100 fat)

Im not a MASS MONSTER i like the fact im big but still ripped and want to keep this look.

my logic is this cycle will give me the size and extra strength gains iam looking for critique if anything looks odd please.

1-10 weeks deca=400mg mon/ thurs
1-12 weeks sust=500mg m/w/f/s
1-4 weeks d bol=40mg mon-sun

I will also be taking vitamin B6 100mg and sustain alpha to battle progesterone while on cycle, milk thistle to protect organs vitamin E to prepare for pct.


I also use zma,tribulus testris and creatine and continue with vitamin E,
vitamin b6 and milk thistle post cycle for roughly 2months

help me structure my pct especially since im using deca and does sus need to be aromatized even though its stacked?
thought id ask my fellow anabolic minds..........

 

[DaBeast]

I would go with a single ester test instead of sust. As pct clomid and a natty test booster. You could run the clomid at 50mg a day for 4 wks. Some people star the clomid at 100mgs the first couple days and then go to 50mgs.

 

[bikeswimlive]

Torem + TRS.

 

[Rodja]

I would go with a single ester test instead of sust. As pct clomid and a natty test booster. You could run the clomid at 50mg a day for 4 wks. Some people star the clomid at 100mgs the first couple days and then go to 50mgs.

Agreed. Cypionate or Enanthate would be a better option. You'll also want to extend out the deca since the ester on it is very long and it doesn't really kick in until the 4th or 5th week.

Torem + TRS.

This.

FYI, TRS.

 

[DaBeast]

He said he already has the sustain alpha I think you should run that with either clomid or torem for pct.

 

[Yaz]

firstly my stats
gender male
(100 % all Natural at the momment)
height 6ft 1.8
weight 16.1st, 101kg, 224lbs
Bodyfat 13%
age 26
Chest 49.5 "
Arms 18 "
Bench 155kg 341.7 lbs (x2 NO SPOT)
Squat 180kg 396 .8 lbs (x6-8 NO SPOT)
Deadlift 220kg 485 lbs obviously no spot

been weight training consistanly 3-4 years blessed with mesomorphic genetics
My goal is 15-20 lbs of tight quality lean mass
bodyfat currently 13% want it down to 8%
weight 224 lbs ideal weight 245 lbs but lean mass

Diet on cycle (3500cl 400g protien 280 carbs 100 fat)

Im not a MASS MONSTER i like the fact im big but still ripped and want to keep this look.

my logic is this cycle will give me the size and extra strength gains iam looking for critique if anything looks odd please.

1-10 weeks deca=400mg mon/ thurs
1-12 weeks sust=500mg m/w/f/s
1-4 weeks d bol=40mg mon-sun

I will also be taking vitamin B6 100mg and sustain alpha to battle progesterone while on cycle, milk thistle to protect organs vitamin E to prepare for pct.


I also use zma,tribulus testris and creatine and continue with vitamin E,
vitamin b6 and milk thistle post cycle for roughly 2months

help me structure my pct especially since im using deca and does sus need to be aromatized even though its stacked?
thought id ask my fellow anabolic minds..........

This is what i would suggest:

Weeks 1-12 --> Test E 400-500mg/week
Weeks 1-11 --> Deca 300-400mg/week
Weeks 1-4/5/6--> D-bol 20-40mg ED
Weeks 1-14 --> Aromasin at 12,5-25mg ED OR Arimidex at 0,50-1mg EOD
Weeks 9-14 --> HCG 500 IU/week - split 2 doses of 250 IU(optional)

PCT
Weeks 15-18 --> Clomid 100 | 75 | 50 | 25mg ED
Weeks 15-18 --> Nolva 40 | 30 | 20 | 10mg ED


PS 1) In case you get any prolactin sides use Pramipexole at 0,25-0,50mg ED OR Bromocriptine at 2,5mg ED.
2) Every Test ester aromatizes, the half life of the drug changes not the compound chemistry. Whenever you have an aromatizable compound in ALWAYS use an AI, you don't have to start having sides to start AI use.
3) Use some liver/lipid protection but not many stuff because of the nature of this cycle doesn't require "heavy" protection.
4) ZMA useless unless you use it for improvent of your sleep, Tribulus useless for T increase - only libido. Run Vit C & E during cycle/PCT, Milk Thistle throught cycle and multivitamin pretty much all the time.
5) IMHO Test blends aren't a good choice - never understood the reason of their existance, don't like them.

 

[sking6464]

Torem + TRS.

yeah this...torem is the best serm imo, easily, and the trs or components of it like endoamp, is solid, or their tcf-1 or testforce, any of these, but with torem

clomid will work too, but i think torem is much better in effects and being side friendly