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    Win vs Anavar as a stand alone


    Hi guys!!!

    I would like to start an oral cycle with just one aas...

    my target is mainly fat loss,and add little lbm if possible...which one would you choose? win or var(dosed both at about 50 mg/day)? do not consider the price,assume they cost the same

    thank you for your opinions!

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    It's called "Win" for a reason. 50mg for 6-8 weeks.
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    Oh, and best for fat loss? That would be a good heavy dose of a clean diet.
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    I prefer anavar myself
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    Winny is a pre-contest compound, and should not be used solo.
    It will make you nice and vascular as ****, but you'll already need to be sub 6-8%.

    Anavar is a much better overall compound. Even if you are running it solo for some reason.
    There is a reason why Anavar costs more..
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    I have never tried it, but from personal users of anavar at 80-100mg/day the results were pretty amazing, saw a guy at my gym maybe add 5lbs + muscle while losing a ton of belly fat, I am thinking too, that in medical studies, anavar has been shown to have an effect on adipose tissue, only steroid to directly cause fat loss, don't ask me to find the studies, to hard on my iPhone, but there out there

    But no idea about 50mg, sounds low but everyone will react differently
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydollars View Post
    I have never tried it, but from personal users of anavar at 80-100mg/day the results were pretty amazing, saw a guy at my gym maybe add 5lbs + muscle while losing a ton of belly fat, I am thinking too, that in medical studies, anavar has been shown to have an effect on adipose tissue, only steroid to directly cause fat loss, don't ask me to find the studies, to hard on my iPhone, but there out there

    But no idea about 50mg, sounds low but everyone will react differently
    false- trenbolone diorectly affects adipose- so does EVERY other steroid- there are Androgen Receptors in fat tissue- steroids bind to them, causing fat loss, the stronger a compound binds to the AR the more fat loss example : trenbolone binds VERY strongly to the AR inducing fat loss


    anavar is your best bet here for several reasons

    its more anabolic the winnie
    it produces collagen synthesis which is good for the joints etc
    it has a strong affinity for the AR
    its less harsh on the body than winnnie



    50mgs is to low though run it at 75-100

    im running 100mgs for 12 weeks
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    Ok well Schwell has some good points...but in medical studies, later I will try in find them, anavar has really nice effects on adipose if I am not mistake

    Schwell, can you point me towards the studies on steroids effecting the AR receptors in fat tissue, causing fat loss, I would like to read them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaydollars View Post
    I have never tried it, but from personal users of anavar at 80-100mg/day the results were pretty amazing, saw a guy at my gym maybe add 5lbs + muscle while losing a ton of belly fat, I am thinking too, that in medical studies, anavar has been shown to have an effect on adipose tissue, only steroid to directly cause fat loss, don't ask me to find the studies, to hard on my iPhone, but there out there

    But no idea about 50mg, sounds low but everyone will react differently
    thanks bra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    false- trenbolone diorectly affects adipose- so does EVERY other steroid- there are Androgen Receptors in fat tissue- steroids bind to them, causing fat loss, the stronger a compound binds to the AR the more fat loss example : trenbolone binds VERY strongly to the AR inducing fat loss


    anavar is your best bet here for several reasons

    its more anabolic the winnie
    it produces collagen synthesis which is good for the joints etc
    it has a strong affinity for the AR
    its less harsh on the body than winnnie



    50mgs is to low though run it at 75-100

    im running 100mgs for 12 weeks
    of course,I'll like the effects on the joints very very much!!!
    are you running a log about your experience? I'm really interested!
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    yes my log is in my signature at the bottom of my post- go look for it in cycle info SCHWELLINGTON IS TURNED TO THE DARKSIDE

    im starting my anavar in 3 weeks- but have researched THE HELL out of it

    will be using trenbolone too

    i will dig up the studies and post them here later tonight so watch for em
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    yes my log is in my signature at the bottom of my post- go look for it in cycle info SCHWELLINGTON IS TURNED TO THE DARKSIDE

    im starting my anavar in 3 weeks- but have researched THE HELL out of it

    will be using trenbolone too

    i will dig up the studies and post them here later tonight so watch for em
    Thanks boss
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    http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/con...act/140/4/1567

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...8&searchtype=a

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...4.00152.x/full

    all done on rats- one study does include that AR"s are found in human adipose


    good luck finding a study done on human though- it would be "unethical"
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    well,it seems var is the best choice

    and what about running something along with it?

    I had these 3 ideas,what's your opinion about them?

    - Clen
    - Proviron (Mesterolone)
    - an AI
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    Make sure you get your blood work done if you plan on running any of those two..
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    I'd go var. Stack it with some clen/t3
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    I'm scared of using t3,'cause of thyroid shutdown...I think I'd go with clen...
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    dont use t3- you will have a low thyroid when you come off of it- not worth it


    with
    test
    anavar
    clen

    and a good clean diet with cardio.weights you will like your results
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    I wanna try a winny only 6 week cycle after i'm done with my test.. let me know what you decide
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    false- trenbolone diorectly affects adipose- so does EVERY other steroid- there are Androgen Receptors in fat tissue- steroids bind to them, causing fat loss, the stronger a compound binds to the AR the more fat loss example : trenbolone binds VERY strongly to the AR inducing fat loss


    anavar is your best bet here for several reasons

    its more anabolic the winnie
    it produces collagen synthesis which is good for the joints etc
    it has a strong affinity for the AR
    its less harsh on the body than winnnie



    50mgs is to low though run it at 75-100

    im running 100mgs for 12 weeks
    Good Post. Anavar is superior to Winstrol for all these reasons.
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    Why noy do, both together? If u have access to both take them each
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    isn't supposed to be too harsh to take them together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superpippo View Post
    well,it seems var is the best choice

    and what about running something along with it?

    I had these 3 ideas,what's your opinion about them?

    - Clen
    - Proviron (Mesterolone)
    - an AI
    Anyone done var+AI, is that a good combo?
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    I like winny but solo? not unless stacking would I use that low a dose.Even stacking I usually go higher! What about a good old ECA? it'll rev up ur metabolism AND motivate u at the gym
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/con...act/140/4/1567

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...8&searchtype=a

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...4.00152.x/full

    all done on rats- one study does include that AR"s are found in human adipose


    good luck finding a study done on human though- it would be "unethical"

    Interesting
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    var+ai there is no need anavar is dry you would wreck your joints


    you could take var+winnie

    but i would do var+tuirnabol
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    what's the point in adding winnie to var?is it useful?
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    another question...would you prefer to do:

    6 weeks @ 50
    or
    8 weeks @ 40

    using the same quantity of var...which one is the best?
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    Aas long term lower dose is better

    Yeah u can stack both ana us verymild
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    Jasen is right anavar is mild,
    var+winnie cool
    var+turinabol cool
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
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    and what doses if I choose to stack var + win?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superpippo View Post
    and what doses if I choose to stack var + win?
    Ull have good results

    Var at 80-100
    Winni at 60- 80

    Var is very mild mildest steroid
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    once again i agree with jason
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Ull have good results

    Var at 80-100
    Winni at 60- 80

    Var is very mild mildest steroid
    Var/tbol sounds good but that would be pretty darn expensive to run var at 80-100!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    once again i agree with jason
    Thanks I seen you post many interesting things aswell

    A yeh its $$$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    Thanks I seen you post many interesting things aswell

    A yeh its $$$$
    no doubt, var is pricey


    i get the raw powder though so for 5 grams i only pay 150 bucks which is dirt cheap

    hypothetically of course :/
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    how is dosed var? i mean i see various post of different doses
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    no doubt, var is pricey


    i get the raw powder though so for 5 grams i only pay 150 bucks which is dirt cheap

    hypothetically of course :/
    Hmm...I never thought about going raw powder?! Do you hypothetically cap them yourself? Or do you mix it in oil? I'm very interested for research purposes only of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kanakafarian View Post
    Hmm...I never thought about going raw powder?! Do you hypothetically cap them yourself? Or do you mix it in oil? I'm very interested for research purposes only of course.
    heh, i dont do either, i just weigh it, lick it off the scale


    hypothetically of course


    i do not like prepairing my own concoctions


    hypothetically
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    heh, i dont do either, i just weigh it, lick it off the scale


    hypothetically of course


    i do not like prepairing my own concoctions


    hypothetically
    Now I've got something to think about. If only I had 400x 10mg GP Dbols on the way, I'd hypothetically add var raw powder into the equation. Hmm...
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