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  1. Mild non methylated pro-hormone


    I just finished my first cycle (6 weeks of Havoc) and now I'm all on board for pro-hormones. I had solid gains, kept a great diet and didn't touch alcohol. I'm looking for my next cycle, hoping to start in april. Does anybody have some suggestions for a mild, non-methylated pro-hormone or steroid? I'm looking for non-methylated for this cycle just to give my liver a rest. Also it'll be a pretty lean gain cycle. I've read something like tren might be too extreme for a second cycle because I don't have enough experience with steroids yet.


  2. Sure. Look up M-lmg by CEL. It's a very unique un-methylated prohormone that gives you massive weight gain and great strength gains. The compound's nomenclature reads 13-beta-Ethyl-3-methoxygona-2,5(10)-dien-17-one. It's purportedly mild on the liver and is known for its very wet bulky gains. Research it and see if it's what you're looking for. Common cycles include a dose similar to 75 mg for the first three weeks and 100 mg for the last 3 weeks = total of 6 weeks.
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  3. tren(ph) is nasty side wise....non methyl, id go with a stack of max lmg/13 ethyl + androhard...should be good balance with those two, great recomp, and solid 10lbs even.....more than likely better than the havoc (assuming you didnt go to 50mg like i would suggest to get the most out of it)

  4. High dose of 11-Oxo. PA reccomends around 750mg for a mild anabolic effect. Dont even need a PCT
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  5. Yes, LMG is my fav! Try lower dosages first and work your way up though. I respond great with just 75mg throughout.
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  6. Stano-drol or pstanz are one of the safest out there in terms of no to less sides

    Lmg will give you good gains.. Sides are jus as bad as phera, make sure u search up and have more support sups.

  7. CEL makes some great phs. Take the advice of these guys.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Bry17 View Post
    Sure. Look up M-lmg by CEL. It's a very unique un-methylated prohormone that gives you massive weight gain and great strength gains. The compound's nomenclature reads 13-beta-Ethyl-3-methoxygona-2,5(10)-dien-17-one. It's purportedly mild on the liver and is known for its very wet bulky gains. Research it and see if it's what you're looking for. Common cycles include a dose similar to 75 mg for the first three weeks and 100 mg for the last 3 weeks = total of 6 weeks.
    Thanks a lot bro, I'll keep doing some research but the m-lmg by CEL is definitely looking like a winner.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by mgsmith88 View Post
    Thanks a lot bro, I'll keep doing some research but the m-lmg by CEL is definitely looking like a winner.
    Good, there's no doubt in my mind you'll enjoy it
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  10. Hold on tight because you're gonna be in for a ride! If you consume enough calories, you'll easily put on 15lbs in 4-5 weeks. Good luck bro and keep us posted.

  11. For me, Furazadrol is KING of the non-methylated PHs for assisting with goals of cutting and hardening, and has very low sides. I don't notice much in the way of sides other than slight fatigue and some increased carb cravings.

    I run 300 mg for 8-10 weeks with zero concerns of toxicity (as I already take liver support daily anyway to mitigate all toxic burdens we are faced with year round).

    I will be one sad dude when it's pulled.

    PS: I went with Competitive Edge Labs last time and felt more "punch". Prior to that, I had used Axis Labs.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    For me, Furazadrol is KING of the non-methylated PHs for assisting with goals of cutting and hardening, and has very low sides. I don't notice much in the way of sides other than slight fatigue and some increased carb cravings.

    I run 300 mg for 8-10 weeks with zero concerns of toxicity (as I already take liver support daily anyway to mitigate all toxic burdens we are faced with year round).

    I will be one sad dude when it's pulled.

    PS: I went with Competitive Edge Labs last time and felt more "punch". Prior to that, I had used Axis Labs.
    protodrol was nice and would stack great with fura.
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  13. Brutha,to tell you the truth,i would run Epi,it IS Methylated,but if you take with AI's Life Support or Cycle Support(or just any type of cycle support),you will be fine,plus the gains will be great,with very mild sides.If the thought of Tren passes trough your head though,make sure you are aware of the sides that you will receive with it.
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  14. Obligatory company plug :Protomax might fit the bill for what you're looking for.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    For me, Furazadrol is KING of the non-methylated PHs for assisting with goals of cutting and hardening, and has very low sides. I don't notice much in the way of sides other than slight fatigue and some increased carb cravings.

    I run 300 mg for 8-10 weeks with zero concerns of toxicity (as I already take liver support daily anyway to mitigate all toxic burdens we are faced with year round).

    I will be one sad dude when it's pulled.

    PS: I went with Competitive Edge Labs last time and felt more "punch". Prior to that, I had used Axis Labs.
    How many bottles would that take? And can you describe the gains?


  16. Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    Obligatory company plug :Protomax might fit the bill for what you're looking for.
    ProtoMax x2! Even though it is methylated...

  17. Quote Originally Posted by hoopem6 View Post
    ProtoMax x2! Even though it is methylated...
    LOL. DOH! I only read mild, oh well, dont post when youre half asleep, guess I better hit the sack before I give some more bad advice.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by RoadBlocK View Post
    Obligatory company plug :Protomax might fit the bill for what you're looking for.
    damn-sorry protomax is the one i took and was recommending. very nice results with hardly any sides-milder than hdrol, imo. i really enjoyed being on it.
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  19. Any blood work with ProtoMax? How is ProtoMax on the liver?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by hoopem6 View Post
    ProtoMax x2! Even though it is methylated...
    yeah, i remember when we were logging it. good stuff.
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  21. Mild and non-methylated, Stan-drol and Androhard.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    yeah, i remember when we were logging it. good stuff.
    Most definitely. Effective, inexpensive, and virtually side-effect free!

  23. YUP YUP but it's methylated

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    protodrol was nice and would stack great with fura.
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  24. Good/Fair question. It aint cheap

    2 bottles a month

    LOL

    Very minimal sides are worth it for the long run as for me, it's a marathon not a sprint

    A solid 5 pounds and a nice recomp. May not sound like much but if you consider the recomp, it's well worth it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    How many bottles would that take? And can you describe the gains?
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    PS: I went with Competitive Edge Labs last time and felt more "punch". Prior to that, I had used Axis Labs.
    Please explain more of this "punch" that you eluded too. I've yet to here a good comparison between these two similar products....

  26. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    Please explain more of this "punch" that you eluded too. I've yet to here a good comparison between these two similar products....
    it's a moot point. when axis released fura it was absolutely fantastic, but i guess they got bad raws and it tested out to be a ton of caffeine lots of guys had bad reactions. it was dc'ed by axis and if you see it for sale more than likely it is the bad batch.


    go with CEL's brand for fura.




    btw-i tried the cel fura, and though not up to par with the original axis fura it was decent-but i had to dose higher than the axis brand making it very costly, imo. better to stack it, so you can get away with lower dosing.
    when i logged protomax i said in the log that proto/fura would make a great stack.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    it's a moot point. when axis released fura it was absolutely fantastic, but i guess they got bad raws and it tested out to be a ton of caffeine lots of guys had bad reactions. it was dc'ed by axis and if you see it for sale more than likely it is the bad batch.


    go with CEL's brand for fura.




    btw-i tried the cel fura, and though not up to par with the original axis fura it was decent-but i had to dose higher than the axis brand making it very costly, imo. better to stack it, so you can get away with lower dosing.
    when i logged protomax i said in the log that proto/fura would make a great stack.
    I hear you t, just asking because I have experience with Axis' Fura but not CEL's. I liked my cycle with it, solid prod for a good 5-10lb gain. Did notice some major shut down and loss of libido with it though after 4wks. I'm curious to hear how CEL's stands up in terms of results. It could be something totally different all together. And given the recent results with the "caffeinated" Fura from Axis, I could have been taking a completely different product with out knowing.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    I hear you t, just asking because I have experience with Axis' Fura but not CEL's. I liked my cycle with it, solid prod for a good 5-10lb gain. Did notice some major shut down and loss of libido with it though after 4wks. I'm curious to hear how CEL's stands up in terms of results. It could be something totally different all together. And given the recent results with the "caffeinated" Fura from Axis, I could have been taking a completely different product with out knowing.
    from what i have heard, if you took the caffeinated version you would know it, lol.

    it's funny you mention the hard shutdown from axis fura-i ran it with formestane and had no problems. but with the cel brand i ran it solo and got shut down pretty hard-this is interesting coming from a ph that is touted as being mild.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    from what i have heard, if you took the caffeinated version you would know it, lol.

    it's funny you mention the hard shutdown from axis fura-i ran it with formestane and had no problems. but with the cel brand i ran it solo and got shut down pretty hard-this is interesting coming from a ph that is touted as being mild.
    Interesting indeed. Thanks for the feedback.

  30. Good point on the caffeine tainting.

    I used AXIS' Furaz 3 years ago (and a few times afterwards) when it first came out. LOVED it. Then, approximately a year ago, I read the reviews about the caffeine spiking, so trust was out the window and gave CeEL brand a try.

    Anecdotally, I doubt I was ever exposed to the caffeine-spiked version as I took a PM dose and never had issues sleeping (more than I alrready do LOL).

    By "more punch"; I simply feel the product more like it's higher dosed (or the Furaz was under dosed) as I always take 300mg/day per run. I simply got more discernable results with the CEL in terms of aesthetics (not strength).

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    from what i have heard, if you took the caffeinated version you would know it, lol.

    it's funny you mention the hard shutdown from axis fura-i ran it with formestane and had no problems. but with the cel brand i ran it solo and got shut down pretty hard-this is interesting coming from a ph that is touted as being mild.
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