- 02-04-2011, 06:06 AM
Complete PCT is ment to be one of the best pct on the market as im gping tp be using h drol in may heres my thoughts ...
So i know people say a serm is a must but i just am scared as they are illegal for a reason they can cause worst side efects and are hard to get the real thing . Here are the ingredents for Complete PCT...
Agaricus Bisporus Mushroom Extract (30% Polysaccharides) - 150mg*
ATD (1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-Dione)*- 25mg*
Chasteberry Extract - 600mg
Cissus Quadrangularis - 600mg*
Cranberry Extract - 350mg*
Eurocoma Longfolia - 200mg
Fadogia Agrestis - 250mg
Hawthorne Berry - 225mg
Icariin (50% Extract) - 200mg
Milk Thistle - 375mg
NAC - 250mg*
Nettle Root - 250mg*
Saw Palmetto - 75mg*
Trans Resveratrol - 300mg
So what you think guys? Thanks
- 02-04-2011, 07:08 AM
- 02-04-2011, 07:43 AM
02-04-2011, 07:50 AM
[QUOTE=vidapreta;2745694]A serm alone would be better than all that stuff.[/QU
Don't cut corners pct is more important then your cycle alone
02-04-2011, 08:20 AM
I agree pct is the must be pefect in all of my cycle but all i hear is people say a serm here and a serm there but it can blind you also cause bloodclots what can kill you i just dont get it what a serm or how irs much better then a otc pct?
02-04-2011, 08:23 AM
- 5'10" 220 lbs.
- Join Date
- Jan 2006
02-04-2011, 08:30 AM
When I 1st started, it took me less than 10 mins of searching the net to find real pharma grade SERM and less than 5 mins to find the research bunk.
02-04-2011, 10:40 AM
Ok so i take this ph and as long as i got a serm i will neva get gyno is that what it does? And yh i have seen some sites that sell it but what if its not real? I have been wanting a h drol cycle for like 6 to 7 months now as its very good iv heard so if a serm js for sure stops gyno frm ever coming then yh . Ohh yh sorry if im sounding like a noob i just aint going to rush in to this thanks
02-04-2011, 10:42 AM
SERMs are, without doubt, the most effective PCT and come at a fraction of the price. Generally speaking, they are very safe and effective (though there is no guarantee in regards to either of these assumptions).
Possession of a research chemical is not illegal. Possession of a pharmaceutical grade SERM without a prescription is against the law, but will not land you any hard time either. Most likely, even if you were be caught in possession of a pharma grade SERM, your package would simply be confiscated.
Possession or trafficking of steroids on the other hand can land you some jail time, but again, many people simply receive notice of confiscation for amounts deemed as personal use (though from what I hear, the DEA and U.S. Customs is drawing a harder line on them as of late).
02-04-2011, 10:46 AM
Ok bro so whats the diffrents between then 2 serms? 1 can be ok but the other is illegal? Why is that bro? And again having a serm stops any cause of gyno right?
02-04-2011, 11:00 AM
There is no guarantee to fully preventing gyno...ever. A SERM or an AI are the best at preventing gyno, but no guarantees can be made. What I can say with certainty is that not using a SERM is your most assured way of getting gyno.
02-04-2011, 11:20 AM
Ok bro il get a serm for sure you sound like you no your stuff so here is my idea cycle please let me no if im wrong bro thanks ....
Preload on cycle assist week before cycle.
30/20/20/10 also pct assist
So what you think bro? Thanks
02-04-2011, 12:07 PM
Run the H-Drol cycle for six weeks as opposed to four, even if that means running it at 50mg as opposed to 75mg. Personally, for a beginner cycle I would dose it at 50/50/50/75/75/75 or maybe even get to 75mg faster, taking into consideration any side effects, including elevated blood pressue.
02-04-2011, 12:15 PM
It sounds like you have not research at all e.g. the stuff you are saying about a SERM, your H-Drol dosing etc.. No one is going to spoon feed you or well they shouldn't because you'll end up hurting yourself.
You'll get gyno if you do not research. And you use "bro" way too much.
02-04-2011, 12:32 PM
I use bro way to much ? Lol come on man! I have researh. Spoon feed me? Wow im asking people that no there **** for help look nothing bad to say but ya dont need to be like that im just asking bro!
So you think a 6 week cycle is ok to do as its my first cycle guys on here seem very hardcore thats just alot bro i mean 50/50/50/75/75/75? On the lable it says do not pass 2 pills aday seems hardcore bro?
02-04-2011, 12:41 PM
Do you have Letro or Adex on hand?
02-04-2011, 12:44 PM
02-04-2011, 12:45 PM
Why is that funny? Do you know briefly what they are?
02-04-2011, 12:49 PM
Well i live in england and adex is hand wash im sorry i thought you was going to be funny with me sorry bro so what is it?
02-04-2011, 01:03 PM
02-04-2011, 01:11 PM
Bro come on i dontno whats up i mean im a nice guy i aint looking for a debate or fight or who knows what .. You win hands down bro im just looking for help again you have helped aload bro so i do thank you for that
02-04-2011, 01:31 PM
Look it aint anything personal but I don't comment just to please people or just tell them "yes". I don't advise anyone to do a cycle if they do not know what they are doing.
A guy at my gym got gyno from H-Drol, he has tits and it looks absolutely horrid.
You know what I did when I was researching? I spent hours after work and college reading every new thread on AM, clicking on "new posts" and just soaking up as much info I could find about everything, even about cycles that did not relate to the one I did (H-Drol).
Some people do cycles with the bare minimum of knowledge (which is basically cycle dosage + Nolva pct) which I guess is okay, but the more prepared/knowledgeable you are, the better your gains and more clear of sides you'll likely be.
I live in the UK as well so I know how easy it is to obtain a SERM, Letro, Adex, Caber etc.. and put a cycle together. There is no excuse.
If you're going to run the cycle without doing more research then your best bet is to listen to eolmack has said.
02-04-2011, 01:32 PM
I don't know how old you are or your lifting experience but definitely don't start the cycle unless you are atleast 21+.
02-04-2011, 01:48 PM
Im 21 in may bro thats why i want to start in jun or soo
02-04-2011, 02:34 PM
This thread has fail all over it
02-04-2011, 03:07 PM
Well iv learned a few tgings tharscall that count right
02-04-2011, 03:09 PM
02-04-2011, 03:11 PM
Just give the guy a break bro. He is a newb bro. How many times can you say bro...bro. Nah just joking. But serious I agree with these guys do more research. Ultimately its goin to be you who has to deal with the side effects. So its better for you to learn away much as you can.
02-04-2011, 03:11 PM
02-04-2011, 03:12 PM
02-04-2011, 03:20 PM
This is not the best information out there, but is a decent start. Though, some of the information is not extremely accruate, it is a decent website.
You should really learn the basics as to what each PH does, the side effects, various PCT methods, various SERMs (what they do and how to dose them), and come up with a well designed cycle and have it critiqued. Your current questions are all over the board (literally). It is a lot to digest, so take some time and do some reading. It will only be to your benefit in the long run.
02-04-2011, 03:21 PM
Wateva man il just try find info eles where.. Thanks anyway.
02-04-2011, 03:22 PM
02-04-2011, 03:23 PM