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Lost for next cycle after new bans

rob88

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My previous cycle I had many options to choose from and now researching my next cycle I see all the old clones have been baned. What clones are still legal? Or are their any new clones that recently came out. Thanks for the help
 
I have been looking for Epi but everone says they are out of stock. I have been looking into LMG I think I might choose this for my next cycle I have read that it gives good results for a non methylated ph. What do must people use for PCT after LMG? And what is a good amount of mg to run for 4 weeks?
 
by opinion, was is the BEST Epi clone out there right now?? I haven't ran Epi since IBE was making it. I am looking for something to use at the end of test E cycle...
 
superdrol is always a winner no matter what. Lmg is kinda a waste in my opinion if you do run it run it over 75mg . But i could just not be a good responder for that compound, but i doubt that
 
rob88 said:
I have been looking for Epi but everone says they are out of stock. I have been looking into LMG I think I might choose this for my next cycle I have read that it gives good results for a non methylated ph. What do must people use for PCT after LMG? And what is a good amount of mg to run for 4 weeks?
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I'm one of those who responds EXTREMELY well to LMG at only 75mg and I run 5-6 weeks depending on when I stall. I use milk thislte, hawthorn, and NAC during and for PCT with an otc PCT support product. And I personally dose nolva @ 20mg x 4 weeks. Thats just what I do.
 
Why would any you guys run epi clones when Epistane is still being made by IBE/PHF and sold pretty much exclusively at the company store for only 34.99? Im just askin, I mean I loved rpn havoc, thats no secret, and if it was a choice between those two, I would get the better priced one, but since theres no more rpn, Im sorry I just dont trust the other knock offs.
 
RoadBlocK said:
Why would any you guys run epi clones when Epistane is still being made by IBE/PHF and sold pretty much exclusively at the company store for only 34.99? Im just askin, I mean I loved rpn havoc, thats no secret, and if it was a choice between those two, I would get the better priced one, but since theres no more rpn, Im sorry I just dont trust the other knock offs.
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I have seen Havoc online within the last week. I was a little surprised, but the company that had it is legit and they are constantly updating their inventory.
 
I have used epi before and loved it but I am trying to stay away from methylated compounds for this cycle
 
rob88 said:
I have used epi before and loved it but I am trying to stay away from methylated compounds for this cycle
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Well, in that case, I know that people have been seeing really good gains with M-LMG, and also that Trenazone is about to come out- it's Transdermal, but it's real Tren (not a PH to tren like X-tren was). Then of course you have all the mild ones- 11oxo, Stano, Furuza, P-Stanz, etc.
 
DYEGYE said:
Well, in that case, I know that people have been seeing really good gains with M-LMG, and also that Trenazone is about to come out- it's Transdermal, but it's real Tren (not a PH to tren like X-tren was). Then of course you have all the mild ones- 11oxo, Stano, Furuza, P-Stanz, etc.
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x-tren is not a ph to tren. its pro-dienalone if im not mistaken.
 
wolfe14 said:
by opinion, was is the BEST Epi clone out there right now?? I haven't ran Epi since IBE was making it. I am looking for something to use at the end of test E cycle...
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You can still buy Epistane.

wolfe14 said:
i didnt think epi was methylated??!!
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2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol

rob88 said:
how does p-stanz compare to M-LMG?
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Apples to oranges.

laserbluess said:
x-tren is not a ph to tren. its pro-dienalone if im not mistaken.
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Correct, it's a PH to dienelone, not tren.

wolfe14 said:
so what is thebest choice to end my 12 week run of test e with?? i have both epi and turinabol lv.....
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Are you going to run this during the end of your Test cycle or after your Test cycle?
 
i could do either...which is better??....my goal is to harden up my gains and lose a little of the bf i aquired on cycle..
 
stxnas said:
Correct, it's a PH to dienelone, not tren.
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I'm dumb sometimes. I should have said it's actual dienelone, not a PH to it. My mind got on tren and I wrote something other than what I should have.
 
from x-tren, is there a known conversion rate to dienelone?
..for example 60 mg's of 19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3, 17 dione
 
Well I found IBE Epistane at the place I usually purchase it online. It's available and $49.00 / bottle.
 
oli said:
from x-tren, is there a known conversion rate to dienelone?
..for example 60 mg's of 19-Norandrosta-4,9 diene-3, 17 dione
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i kinda wanna know this too. would a 7 week low dose (60mg) of pro-dienelone be beneficial at all? or would it just be a waste to use that low of a dose. i was thinking that a long cycle like that with a low dose might yield some impressive body fat / hardening and strength gains provided the diet is right.
 
i was told, "There isn't a known conversion for anything.."
- so maybe the question should be rephrased as:

Is there a rough, bro-scientific estimation as how to how much x-tren converts to Dienelone?
 
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