How much and what anti-estro's are being used with 4-AD cyp?

  1. How much and what anti-estro's are being used with 4-AD cyp?


    Ive been wanting to try 4AD cyp for a while now, but havent gotten around to it. I still have a few questions that I cant seem to find answers for.

    1. In a rough estimation, how much 4AD cyp is equal to 500mg of test cyp?

    2. what doses and types of anti-e's are you guys using?


  2. I'm not an expert but I dont beleive any amount within reason would equal to 500 mg of test cyp.

  3. Check out this thread, SS's test levels were really high at one point, and Bobo made a comparison of the test levels that 500mg's of test per week would yield.

    Sldge's Sterile 4AD Kicks Ass
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_4
    Check out this thread, SS's test levels were really high at one point, and Bobo made a comparison of the test levels that 500mg's of test per week would yield.

    Sldge's Sterile 4AD Kicks Ass
    II stand corrected

  5. what about anti-e's?

    I still dont know what to plan on for avoiding aromatization issues.


  6. I usually try to use SWALE's protocol on every cycle regardless of wheter its PH or AAS.

    Check out this thread, SWALE gives his recommendations...
    http://www.cuttingedgemuscle.com/For...le.php?s=&id=6

    I believe I saw him recommend Anastrazole (Armidex) .5mgs every 3 days, but dont quote me on that. I will see if I can find it later.

  7. For on-cycle use, you need an anti-aromatase: Arimidex, Letro, or formestane will all work. It's not a necessity, but will control bloating, etc.

  8. I plan on using arimidex.

    I dont think Im being very clear. Ive used test before, and know how much arimidex I need for something like 600mg of test cyp.

    I dont know what to plan on for using 4AD.

    It might be more clear if I ask 'Is the bloat from 4AD more, less, or equal to that of test?'

  9. The bloat is about the same in my opinion.

  10. i dont know about testE,but i did a****load of ds's 4ad prop,lik 1cc ed for2wks and then doubledd it up to 2cc's ed combined with other things, but no bloat and didnt use any e's, just got thick,mean in traffic on the way to the gym with an attitude

  11. I'm using ds's 4AD cyp right now, and I get pretty bloated at night. But when i wake up in the morning it disappears. The difference is actually pretty weird, because i look like two different people when i go to bed, and when i wake up. i'm not using any anti e's right now, but would use nolva if needed. I'm not concerned about bloat that will go away when i come off i'm just worried about gyno.

    If I were to use the gyno while on it would probably be 10 mg's a day at night since that's when my estro levels are highest.
  

  
 

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