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    Alright **** it im going back on


    Im going to run a low dose cycle, for maintenance, cause the OTC products aint workin lol.

    So here what im thinkin, you guys have been really cool, and by far this is my favorite forum yet(Not just saying that), you all are cool dudes and really helpful. I dont feel attacked when i ask questions like other places.

    Anywho

    Test Prop 200mg Week (Im freaked about hair loss)
    Deca NPP- 250mg a week

    Someone told me M1T doesnt cause hair loss but idk about that.

    I also heard that Test+deca regrows hair? Dont ask me where, i dont believe that at all

    But anyways my question is, with such low doses do you think ill notice any shedding?

    Im using Toco-8 2 scoops a day and Nizoral shampoo every 3 days. (And my hairline is dropping forward)

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    Grab some finasteride if your worried about shedding. It blocks conversion of androgens to dht an will help save the hairline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movin_weight View Post
    Grab some finasteride if your worried about shedding. It blocks conversion of androgens to dht an will help save the hairline
    Yes, but your not suppose to use finasteride with nandrolones. Causes even more shedding.
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    any more opinions?
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    drop the npp 50mg..

    Then you will close to my buddies HRT dose..
    Get on HCG if you arent already and low dose aromasin..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolidusSnake View Post
    drop the npp 50mg..

    Then you will close to my buddies HRT dose..
    Get on HCG if you arent already and low dose aromasin..
    Drop NPP 50mg?

    Whys that
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    you shouldnt have a nandrolone higher than your test..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolidusSnake View Post
    you shouldnt have a nandrolone higher than your test..
    Lol this again?

    Dude, Nandrolones cannot suppress exogenous test. So in reality one would be fine with 150mg of test and 500mg of deca with some caber on hand.

    The reason deca gives the "Deca-****" is because of prolactin, not because of the suppressing of exogenous test. Doesnt happen :P.

    And personally, i believe deca-d*ck is a mental thing in ALOT of people.

    They hear stories of it, then they run it and think they have it. And we all know how much the mind can f*ck us over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Lol this again?

    Dude, Nandrolones cannot suppress exogenous test. So in reality one would be fine with 150mg of test and 500mg of deca with some caber on hand.

    The reason deca gives the "Deca-****" is because of prolactin, not because of the suppressing of exogenous test. Doesnt happen :P.

    And personally, i believe deca-d*ck is a mental thing in ALOT of people.

    They hear stories of it, then they run it and think they have it. And we all know how much the mind can f*ck us over.
    Oh if you have caber your fine then..
    But the reason why heightened test levels over power prolactin is via heightened DHT levels.. Which iin turn, lower prolactin and raise libido..
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    Only deca-*** I have experienced is soreness from all the extra use LOL.
    True story:

    I give a f**K!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Lol this again?

    Dude, Nandrolones cannot suppress exogenous test. So in reality one would be fine with 150mg of test and 500mg of deca with some caber on hand.

    The reason deca gives the "Deca-****" is because of prolactin, not because of the suppressing of exogenous test. Doesnt happen :P.

    And personally, i believe deca-d*ck is a mental thing in ALOT of people.

    They hear stories of it, then they run it and think they have it. And we all know how much the mind can f*ck us over.
    Nothing cialis can't handle.

    I have MBP in my family and over the years have noticed shedding on various AAS's. Nizoral seems to help. Toco-8 seems to be a good product (and trust me, I do not pimp any company, in fact I dislike supplements in the first place.) If it wasn't so high priced and continuous, I'd be on it myself. Anyhow, this past year I ran a cycle of 700/700 prop/NPP. The shedding was negligible. This is me personally, but I don't think you have much to worry about. Tren ace did a little more damage to my hairline. But believe it or not, Promagnon did the worst damage to my hair back in the day. I would literally run my hand thru my hair and 20-30 hairs would fall out...yikes!
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    hair loss is genetic. AAS can speed it up, but its mainly the DHT's.
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    saw palmetto can keep DHT sides to a minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Manback View Post
    Nothing cialis can't handle.

    I have MBP in my family and over the years have noticed shedding on various AAS's. Nizoral seems to help. Toco-8 seems to be a good product (and trust me, I do not pimp any company, in fact I dislike supplements in the first place.) If it wasn't so high priced and continuous, I'd be on it myself. Anyhow, this past year I ran a cycle of 700/700 prop/NPP. The shedding was negligible. This is me personally, but I don't think you have much to worry about. Tren ace did a little more damage to my hairline. But believe it or not, Promagnon did the worst damage to my hair back in the day. I would literally run my hand thru my hair and 20-30 hairs would fall out...yikes!
    700mg of prop and 700mg of PP huh

    Well i plan to run MUCH lower than that, 200mg of test and 300-400mg of NPP/Deca

    With the toco-8 and nizoral and i might run some saw palmetto


    Quote Originally Posted by Heat Miser View Post
    saw palmetto can keep DHT sides to a minimum.
    well i hear that deca is fairly mild on the hair

    So if i run a low dose of test with a decent dose of nandrolone i expect i dont have to worry about hair loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waynaferd View Post
    Only deca-*** I have experienced is soreness from all the extra use LOL.
    i had a little bit of problems coming off of tren, was nothing seroius. turned more into a mental issue, maybe it was a mental issue cuz all the horror stories?

    Quote Originally Posted by WetWorks View Post
    hair loss is genetic. AAS can speed it up, but its mainly the DHT's.
    im balding at 23 ; / i shave my head now
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Manback View Post
    Nothing cialis can't handle.
    I have MBP in my family and over the years have noticed shedding on various AAS's. Nizoral seems to help. Toco-8 seems to be a good product (and trust me, I do not pimp any company, in fact I dislike supplements in the first place.) If it wasn't so high priced and continuous, I'd be on it myself. Anyhow, this past year I ran a cycle of 700/700 prop/NPP. The shedding was negligible. This is me personally, but I don't think you have much to worry about. Tren ace did a little more damage to my hairline. But believe it or not, Promagnon did the worst damage to my hair back in the day. I would literally run my hand thru my hair and 20-30 hairs would fall out...yikes!
    yeah get soem cialis or viagra shouldnt have anything to worry about, stuff is awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    i had a little bit of problems coming off of tren, was nothing seroius. turned more into a mental issue, maybe it was a mental issue cuz all the horror stories?


    im balding at 23 ; / i shave my head now


    yeah get soem cialis or viagra shouldnt have anything to worry about, stuff is awesome
    I think deca has the best anabolic effects with the least side effects

    But if nandrolone is easy on the hair then i guess ill give it a go, and the reason im using NPP is because of its short ester, so if I DO however start shedding then it will be out of my system quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    I think deca has the best anabolic effects with the least side effects

    But if nandrolone is easy on the hair then i guess ill give it a go, and the reason im using NPP is because of its short ester, so if I DO however start shedding then it will be out of my system quicker.
    ya smart thining w/ the NPP, than youll know what it does to your hair if anything.
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    You wont shed on NPP or nan dec.... Or 200mg test..
    I would raise to 250mg test to make things even steven.
    Take some p5p everyday as well, cheap and effective.. will raise dopamine..
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    yes be careful with the P5P though, I have read that high doses for a long period of time can lead to the damaging of the basal ganglia in your brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyran View Post
    yes be careful with the P5P though, I have read that high doses for a long period of time can lead to the damaging of the basal ganglia in your brain.
    Pardon my ignorance but whats p5p?
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    your going to go bald. i can already see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    your going to go bald. i can already see it.
    Noone in my family is bald, just receded hairlines.

    And if i have to run deca by itself to prevent hair loss then so ****in be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Noone in my family is bald, just receded hairlines.

    And if i have to run deca by itself to prevent hair loss then so ****in be it.
    Test and other Androgenics aromatize the most. Anabolics like Deca build the most muscle with the least sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WetWorks View Post
    Test and other Androgenics aromatize the most. Anabolics like Deca build the most muscle with the least sides.
    Deca gets you really big for some reason lol, all my buddies who run nandrolone really get a drastic change within 7-8 weeks.
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    P5P is a specific form of the B6 vitamin.
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    hey deca is known for imporving joints, i might run DECA at a very low dose for my joints with my next cycle, my question anyone here ntoice any benefits joint wise from deca?
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    Joint benefits were mostly noted once I pulled the NPP from my test, meaning I could feel the joints ache a bit more.
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    The prop is a nice cruising level.
    I would drop the deca, but that's a biased opinion just because I don't like it, at all.
    Roll with a low dose of var instead. A little GH (2-3IU) never hurts either.

    Propecia has always worked for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Deca gets you really big for some reason lol, all my buddies who run nandrolone really get a drastic change within 7-8 weeks.

    the reason is cause Deca, Tren, EQ, and NPP are all Anabolics. Anabolics builds more muscle than Androgenics or DHT's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WetWorks View Post
    the reason is cause Deca, Tren, EQ, and NPP are all Anabolics. Anabolics builds more muscle than Androgenics or DHT's.
    Well EQ doesnt do **** for mass, and tren didnt build any muscle on me. I just got really hard and vascular.

    But my father blew the **** up on deca.

    And i see tren more as an androgen than a anabolic even though it is very anabolic, so is halotestin due to it being more anabolic than test it still doesnt build anywhere near as much mass.
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    The AAS works in mysterious ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Well EQ doesnt do **** for mass, and tren didnt build any muscle on me. I just got really hard and vascular.

    But my father blew the **** up on deca.

    And i see tren more as an androgen than a anabolic even though it is very anabolic, so is halotestin due to it being more anabolic than test it still doesnt build anywhere near as much mass.
    you got fake EQ and Tren than. my .02
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    For me...
    EQ packed on real size.
    Tren sculpted me really well.
    Deca just turned me into a human water balloon and gave me stretch marks. F that sh...
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    Tren was amazing, i put on crazy weight and got lean at the same time. I think it has some synergy with the increased IGF tren causes it's called the "roid of the gods" for a reason. If you didn't get big and jacked on tren I would say it's not impossible you got some weak or bunk stuff.

    looks good though, I would add a little finasteride if you're worried about prostate and hair, doesn't take much though so start low, I'd also add some HCG at least twice a week if you ever want to come off again. HCG is cheap and easy so I always include it when it can be found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WetWorks View Post
    you got fake EQ and Tren than. my .02
    No it was real tren, because my father was taking the same **** and he was getting amazing results.

    Everyone is different, EQ didnt give me any size, but it made me extremely hungry and i got some good strength gains on it.

    Tren made very vascular and it burned fat off me, i could tell it was legit because of my excessive night sweats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WetWorks View Post
    the reason is cause Deca, Tren, EQ, and NPP are all Anabolics. Anabolics builds more muscle than Androgenics or DHT's.
    i dont know who told you this, but all those compounds u listed, are all androgens.

    with a post like this, you shouldn't even be thinking about anabolic/androgenic steroids, let alone using them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    i dont know who told you this, but all those compounds u listed, are all androgens.

    with a post like this, you shouldn't even be thinking about anabolic/androgenic steroids, let alone using them.
    Maybe he ment some are just more androgenic than others lol. Idk
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    i dont know who told you this, but all those compounds u listed, are all androgens.

    with a post like this, you shouldn't even be thinking about anabolic/androgenic steroids, let alone using them.
    where did you get your info?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Maybe he ment some are just more androgenic than others lol. Idk
    tried to give him a chance to redeem himself, but he blew it with this comment. --v

    Quote Originally Posted by WetWorks View Post
    where did you get your info?
    too bad. "anabolics build more muscle than androgenics & dht's", I think this is the best part. I should put it in my signature. it's hilareous.
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    i have been on 800mg test and 600mg deca for 18wks and have not had any issue with shedding... i have started to thin some but this did nothing to add to it. added 26.5lbs of fairly lean muscle due to the fact i went from about 9% to 11.25%bf and have 2 wks left before pct... def a happy camper!
  

  
 

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