Alright **** it im going back on
- 12-26-2010, 12:39 AM
Alright **** it im going back on
Im going to run a low dose cycle, for maintenance, cause the OTC products aint workin lol.
So here what im thinkin, you guys have been really cool, and by far this is my favorite forum yet(Not just saying that), you all are cool dudes and really helpful. I dont feel attacked when i ask questions like other places.
Test Prop 200mg Week (Im freaked about hair loss)
Deca NPP- 250mg a week
Someone told me M1T doesnt cause hair loss but idk about that.
I also heard that Test+deca regrows hair? Dont ask me where, i dont believe that at all
But anyways my question is, with such low doses do you think ill notice any shedding?
Im using Toco-8 2 scoops a day and Nizoral shampoo every 3 days. (And my hairline is dropping forward)
- 12-26-2010, 01:30 AM
Grab some finasteride if your worried about shedding. It blocks conversion of androgens to dht an will help save the hairline
- 12-26-2010, 01:31 AM
12-26-2010, 11:23 AM
12-26-2010, 12:10 PM
drop the npp 50mg..
Then you will close to my buddies HRT dose..
Get on HCG if you arent already and low dose aromasin..
12-26-2010, 12:14 PM
12-26-2010, 12:17 PM
12-26-2010, 12:19 PM
Dude, Nandrolones cannot suppress exogenous test. So in reality one would be fine with 150mg of test and 500mg of deca with some caber on hand.
The reason deca gives the "Deca-****" is because of prolactin, not because of the suppressing of exogenous test. Doesnt happen :P.
And personally, i believe deca-d*ck is a mental thing in ALOT of people.
They hear stories of it, then they run it and think they have it. And we all know how much the mind can f*ck us over.
12-26-2010, 12:52 PM
12-26-2010, 02:58 PM
Only deca-*** I have experienced is soreness from all the extra use LOL.
I give a f**K!!
12-26-2010, 03:15 PM
I have MBP in my family and over the years have noticed shedding on various AAS's. Nizoral seems to help. Toco-8 seems to be a good product (and trust me, I do not pimp any company, in fact I dislike supplements in the first place.) If it wasn't so high priced and continuous, I'd be on it myself. Anyhow, this past year I ran a cycle of 700/700 prop/NPP. The shedding was negligible. This is me personally, but I don't think you have much to worry about. Tren ace did a little more damage to my hairline. But believe it or not, Promagnon did the worst damage to my hair back in the day. I would literally run my hand thru my hair and 20-30 hairs would fall out...yikes!
12-26-2010, 03:28 PM
12-26-2010, 03:47 PM
saw palmetto can keep DHT sides to a minimum.
We live in a time where our planet suffers from two epidemics simultaneously - starvation and obesity.
Look at all these little kids taking care of the music biz, don't their business take good care of me.
I have the fire, I have the force, I have the power to make my evil take it's course.
12-26-2010, 04:07 PM
Well i plan to run MUCH lower than that, 200mg of test and 300-400mg of NPP/Deca
With the toco-8 and nizoral and i might run some saw palmetto
So if i run a low dose of test with a decent dose of nandrolone i expect i dont have to worry about hair loss.
12-26-2010, 04:43 PM
12-26-2010, 04:58 PM
But if nandrolone is easy on the hair then i guess ill give it a go, and the reason im using NPP is because of its short ester, so if I DO however start shedding then it will be out of my system quicker.
12-26-2010, 05:27 PM
12-26-2010, 05:54 PM
You wont shed on NPP or nan dec.... Or 200mg test..
I would raise to 250mg test to make things even steven.
Take some p5p everyday as well, cheap and effective.. will raise dopamine..
12-26-2010, 05:57 PM
yes be careful with the P5P though, I have read that high doses for a long period of time can lead to the damaging of the basal ganglia in your brain.
12-26-2010, 06:57 PM
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12-26-2010, 09:16 PM
12-26-2010, 09:39 PM
12-27-2010, 12:37 AM
12-27-2010, 01:48 PM
hey deca is known for imporving joints, i might run DECA at a very low dose for my joints with my next cycle, my question anyone here ntoice any benefits joint wise from deca?
12-27-2010, 02:44 PM
Joint benefits were mostly noted once I pulled the NPP from my test, meaning I could feel the joints ache a bit more.
12-27-2010, 02:52 PM
The prop is a nice cruising level.
I would drop the deca, but that's a biased opinion just because I don't like it, at all.
Roll with a low dose of var instead. A little GH (2-3IU) never hurts either.
Propecia has always worked for me.
12-27-2010, 03:34 PM
12-27-2010, 03:54 PM
But my father blew the **** up on deca.
And i see tren more as an androgen than a anabolic even though it is very anabolic, so is halotestin due to it being more anabolic than test it still doesnt build anywhere near as much mass.
12-27-2010, 03:57 PM
12-27-2010, 04:39 PM
12-27-2010, 05:14 PM
EQ packed on real size.
Tren sculpted me really well.
Deca just turned me into a human water balloon and gave me stretch marks. F that sh...
12-27-2010, 05:43 PM
Tren was amazing, i put on crazy weight and got lean at the same time. I think it has some synergy with the increased IGF tren causes it's called the "roid of the gods" for a reason. If you didn't get big and jacked on tren I would say it's not impossible you got some weak or bunk stuff.
looks good though, I would add a little finasteride if you're worried about prostate and hair, doesn't take much though so start low, I'd also add some HCG at least twice a week if you ever want to come off again. HCG is cheap and easy so I always include it when it can be found.
12-27-2010, 06:16 PM
Everyone is different, EQ didnt give me any size, but it made me extremely hungry and i got some good strength gains on it.
Tren made very vascular and it burned fat off me, i could tell it was legit because of my excessive night sweats.
12-27-2010, 08:14 PM
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12-28-2010, 12:03 AM
i have been on 800mg test and 600mg deca for 18wks and have not had any issue with shedding... i have started to thin some but this did nothing to add to it. added 26.5lbs of fairly lean muscle due to the fact i went from about 9% to 11.25%bf and have 2 wks left before pct... def a happy camper!